• NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net
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    4 days ago

    I dislike the fascist militaries of the world as much as the next guy, but maybe insinuating that someone deserves to get sexually assaulted because of their job is in bad taste.

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      Also, not to belabour the point;

      The Navy’s Military Sealift Command operates 130 civilian-crewed ships that replenish Navy ships, conduct special missions and strategically move and preposition cargo at sea around the world. The Coast Guard manages necessary licenses to work aboard the ships, which is why its investigative service got involved.

      Civilian crewed ships.

      So non-combatants.

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        Without the logistics chain the murder rape machine cannot operate. She is as much part of it as the frontline rapists. “Civilian ships” lol

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              And that gives you carte blanche to gleefully mock her being sexually assaulted, does it?

              What a pleasant person you are.

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                  Wtf are you even saying, her punishment should not be raped by other raping troops that doesn’t solve anything.

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                  And look at you celebrating raping people you don’t like.

                  What other occasions do you think it’s fun to celebrate someone being raped over? Do you have a list of people you think it’s acceptable to rape?

                  And before you start, I’m not interested in defending any imperialist forces. I’m just curious about the mind of someone who thinks rape is fun sometimes.

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                  No, I am defending a human being. And questioning why you would say these things about another person, unless you’re a literal llm scalping data off people’s rage responses to your bait, in which case props to whoever owns you.

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      on the other hand they fucking rape kill and oppress people in the name of a fascist empire.

      i’m not shedding a tear for these people in light of what they keep doing to us.

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      She was just a woman serving in the rape-terror forces. She doesn’t deserve the stuff she’s doing to brown untermenschen in the third world.

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        Nobody deserves to be raped. End of story. You don’t use rape as a form of punishment. End of story, you’re making yourself look awful.

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        What the fuck are you trying to advocate for here, materially speaking? That men can and/or should rape women on US navy ships? I don’t want to put words in your mouth but that is what it sounds like.

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            I’m not defending the crimes this woman helped perpetrate, I’m asking what material actions you are advocating for.

            For example, I believe that the rapist should be punished, this woman needs help with the resulting PTSD, and the entire military needs to be dismantled with appropriate punishments for all involved. Requiring them to do labor rebuilding countries they destroyed would be a good start, with harsher punishment for people doing actual war crimes themselves. Being physically violated by a man who’s also an accessory to war crimes is not a valid punishment, it does not advance any of the societal goals of punishment (deterrence, incapacitation, rehabilitation, retribution), to speak nothing of how inhumane and cruel it is.

            What about you?

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                Killing active-duty US military members to prevent them from engaging in their usual war crimes is OK because it serves a clear goal (incapacitate the soldier, deter other soldiers from joining).

                Raping active-duty US military members is not OK because it does not serve any goal, she has PTSD now but that won’t stop her from doing more work for the military, and it does nothing to deter men from joining the military (if anything it may be a more enticing proposition for the target audience)

                The question is not whether or not someone “deserved” something, it is “which material outcome do we want to achieve”.

                Because you are refusing to answer my simple question of what you are advocating for, I will assume my initial assumption is correct. It seems the material outcome you want to achieve is terrible suffering for women in US military, not the prevention of war crimes by US military. While understandable that you want to hurt “bad people” like that, it’s not helpful at all.

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                  Who raped her but the rape-terror forces she joined herself?

                  This is peak leapardsatemyface and you’re out here saying the person didn’t deserve to have their face eaten by a leopard.

                  It seems the material outcome you want to achieve is terrible suffering for women in US military

                  Just women? What kind of sexist are you?

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      And the whole thread is full of Amerisraelis telling you how awesome their soldiers are and they don’t deserve any of this

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      I see a few people here posting a bunch defending an unpopular position and a bunch of people reacting against it. I don’t know where you lie on this, but that feels about right to me, although it can give the wrong impression if you just see the number of comments.

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    Look I’m not saying she deserved to be raped, BIG BUT, I also don’t feel bad either. She chose to join the Rapists and they did what they do.