• gmtom@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I just want her to run for president. But after fielding 2 uninspiring establishment centre-right candidates with no grassroots base, that offer nothing exciting, the Democrats and even many voters think that women in general are unelectable.

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      2 days ago

      Yeah. Democrats chose to run some of the worst candidates in history.

      It’s sad that now a female candidate guarantees a trump victory. Nominating conservative female candidates did more harm than good.

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      2 days ago

      I just don’t think very highly of Americans in general. They are too sexist, too racist, and too elitist.

      They want a rich old white man. Only one time ever did they attempt something else, and that lead directly to a third of the country becoming extremists.

      I love AOC. Hope she will become president one day. But please just run with someone that your sexist, racist, elitist neighbors can actually vote for.

      Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.

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        17 hours ago

        AOC is having a fucking moment, so naturally women of color suddenly can’t win. Sanders got raked over the coals for just being accused of saying something like that to Warren. But it’s sure different now that the party can’t use it as a weapon against a progressive. Now they’re trying to keep AOC from running. So the party will hold back all women in order to hold back one progressive woman.

        Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.

        It will give us time to think of a new excuse.

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          How is it sudden? Trump won both times you tried running women as president. Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?

          I know you want it, its fine. But the world cant take 4 extra years of whoever heritage chooses to dismantle democracy for them, if i happen to be right.

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            How is it sudden?

            Because there’s speculation that AOC might run.

            Trump won both times you tried running women as president.

            Trump won both times we ran uninspiring centrist women for president. AOC is neither uninspiring nor centrist.

            Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?

            The ones you want to impress certainly are.

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              You have 50mil eligible voters who haven’t even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn’t bother to show.

              I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.

              Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right? I simply don’t have enough faith in the American people. You keep disappointing.

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        I’d LOVE to see AOC as president, but I think this post is sopt on perfect. I think she could do some amazing good as Senate Minority, and eventually Majority Leader, and become president a bit later in life.

        Gerald Ford was once addressing a classroom, and one of the kids asked him if a woman would ever be President, and he said that a woman would definitely be president someday, but the first woman president wouldnt be directly elected. He thought the first woman president would be a vice president, who gets promoted when the president dies. After that, a woman wouldn’t have a problem getting elected. I thought that was a pretty insightful read on the weird bigotry of Americans.

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        Nah I vehemently disagree with this. The racist sexist bigots aren’t going to vote democrat no matter what. Kamala spent a lot of time trying to court the “”“moderate”" republicans and it didn’t work.

        Obama won because he had a base and he got people excited. People still remember “Yes we can” and just the general hope and inspiration he brought.

        And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.

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          The racist sexist bigots aren’t going to vote democrat no matter what.

          Don’t make the mistake of thinking that racism and especially sexism don’t exist within the Democratic voting base. They are much less of a problem than within the Republican voting base, but they are still significant enough to swing elections.

          And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.

          Not solely due to Obama, but his existence in the White House did get a lot of people to take off their masks.