You’re the reason Trump was elected again. Fuck all the way off.
And they think that’s going to help them get elected?
They only care about making sure no one to their left gets elected.
eh, they don’t even really care about that. they say what they think will get them reelected, if progs get a controlling majority of the Dem party most of these valueless centrists will flip
Their donors care
Only if Millennials and Gen Z still won’t show up to vote en masse. The tide finally seems to be turning against the old guard at least.
Damn, do you just never pay attention to history? Millennials might start voting more, but Gen Z and younger will not. Why?
Because young people don’t vote. Every fucking election people smoke pure hopium and say “This is the year! The youth are fired up! They’re going to turn out in record numbers and bring about change!” And every fucking election it is the lowest voting demographic, by a HUGE margin.
Young people don’t vote. I do not fucking care what the circumstances are and what you are seeing from online discorce. Young people do not vote.
And if you are holding out for the aging Millennials starting to go to the polls, well expect to keep holding that weight for a long time. Older millennials are beginning to drift more conservative. “How can that be?!” You ask. “Certainly they have been noticing all the stuff going on!” And to that I say; no, they absolutely are not. They are raising families. They are focused on their careers as they start to move into middle/upper management. They are getting dumber just as all generations do once they pass ~40. And conservatism attracts dumb people like flies to a honey-covered statue of a sexy fly.
The more things change, the more things stay the same.
Hence the conditional statement. I’m not at all delusional enough to think younger people would vote. I started voting as soon as I turned 18 but knew I was an outlier from the get-go as I was the only person under 40 at the polling booths. People under 60 are reactionary and will only vote for a better candidate when the world’s already on fire and it’s mostly too late to prevent a lot of damage.
My only hope is with Mamdani and all the positive press he’s been getting from all his progressive policies. All of this is at least affecting the political discourse enough to nudge the Overton Window a tiny bit back to the left with Democrats.
Lol “elections”
They expect your vote, though.
Glad they label themselves now so we know who to vote out.
Keep fighting other democrats and never republicans.
Cool, don’t bitch when we don’t vote for you then
I forget where I heard / read this but weren’t the founders dead set against the economic system we now find ourselves in?
America is pretty much a game of twisting the ideas the nation was founded on into the opposite of what they were intended to mean. Much like American Christianity. It’s a batshit country.
Adam Smith didn’t want unchecked capitalism; he argued that capitalists would immediately conspire to fuck everyone over when given the chance. Somewhere else he used the invisible hand as part of a metaphor for how specialization and trade between nations causes mutual benefits. The american political thought propaganda department took these two words out of context and made Smith the hero of unregulated capitalism, because the “invisible hand” of the market will solve everything.
It’s the same thing over and over. Jesus said love thy neighbour, American Christians are chanting build a wall. America was founded in direct opposition to kings, the current president is bragging about being one while hiring judges as hitmen who insist on taking the text of the constitution Very Seriously.
All of American society is a distorted lie at this point. All of it.
Of course, the founders of the original ideas were never perfect either, but the ideas were often better than the men behind them. Arguing that the idea that all men are created equal is invalidated by the fact that it was written by a slave owner is just another part of the endless distracting bullshit narrative. It makes the author a hypocrite, but it does not invalidate the idea.
I agree in spirit. But:
Much like American Christianity.
Bad analogy. Christianity is terrible all the way through. The bible exists to normalize abuse. There is no world where “all-powerful and loving being chose to make us suffer” makes sense.
Jesus said love thy neighbour, American Christians are chanting build a wall.
He was talking to those who would inherit his kingdom. He was more dismissive of others. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
The golden rule predates christianity. There is no such thing as a christ, Jesus was a delusional narcissist who caused endless problems for us.
It makes the author a hypocrite, but it does not invalidate the idea.
To prevent such hypocrisy in the future, we cannot pretend false things are true. “Freedom of religion” makes accountability impossible. Grown-ass adults need to stop pretending magic is real. I don’t think baseless religious claims should be protected under the first amendment, it is akin to yelling “fire” in a crowded theater when there is no fire.
We can’t get on the same page when people are encouraged to believe whatever they want. Honest people believe what is most likely true whether they want it or not. We need to rely on standards that are grounded in observable, measurable reality.
To prevent such hypocrisy in the future, we cannot pretend false things are true.
I am of the opinion that any sufficiently advanced religion is indistinguishable from the believer’s own morals (in terms of presence in decisions). Banning religion would not solve anything.
Did I say ban?
I advocate for education. All life depends on the truth; therefore, certain falsehoods threaten all life.
As we are living people, it is in our best interests to hold each other accountable for our words and actions, which are driven by our beliefs.
Instead, we currently have adults pretending that bronze age blood magic is real and that’s why we should dehumanize LGBTQIA+ and immigrants.
This is insane, yet the average person has bought the comforting lie that everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want. We should correct this deadly mistake every time we see it.
I don’t see the difference between your last paragraph and banning believing. To me, you can ban hate crime but you can’t ban bad morals, so you can’t ban beliefs because it’s just a disguise for the morals doing the talking, an arbitrary abstraction that people from all spectrums enjoy. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism.
you can’t ban beliefs
I literally can’t control what people think, correct.
because it’s just a disguise for the morals doing the talking
You got it backwards. We are all morally obliged to align our beliefs with reality because mistakes can cost lives. I don’t have to ban belief. I have to educate whoever is willing to listen to reason. It is in everyone’s best interests for everyone to believe in the reality we share. All our lives depend on it.
People like my father are proudly exercising their right to be wrong, to accept claims with no evidence, and their choices as a direct result of their magical thinking have directly led to abuse. No one should be okay with parents abusing their children because they believe in magic, but it is cheered here in the bible belt. I think people are underestimating how harmful these beliefs are.
I’ll agree with that. But I disagree with the targetting of religion as “these beliefs”. Domestic violence is famously high in atheist China. I have my own personal anecdotes from a very atheist/agnostic family. Religion is just aesthetic window-dressing and creates both bad and good. Believing “no pain no gain” is its own form of magic.
And Republicans used to be neocons, not literal fascists.
They’ve always been this, just going mask off now
They should claim to be liberals. Capitalism is a statement that Marx invented because he knew it was a losing battle to be against the freedom of classical liberalism. Since them capitalism has been made useful in economics in the same way spherical cows are useful in physics. However capitalism as most countries practice it is a result of liberalism not a goal in itself.
Just because Marx gave a name to “an ownership class that undercompensates labor and pockets the spoils” doesn’t mean that condition didn’t or doesn’t exist.
Marx is one of a long string of ‘experts’ that don’t value work that isn’t obviously the result of working with hands. Mind work is very important
Never said it wasn’t. I don’t think he did either.
You are deeply misinformed or perhaps intentionally misleading re: your characterization of Marx’s ideas. Marx’s theories on mental labor appear in his earliest works, and continue through his later, more developed ones:
labour-power or capacity for labour is to be understood the aggregate of those mental and physical capabilities existing in a human being, which he exercises whenever he produces a use-value of any description.
Capital V1, chapter 6 – where Marx defines labor power
Your characterization of Marx’s ideas, that he is creating artificial divisions between different kinds of labor, is in fact a tendency of capitalism that Marx identified and criticized at great length.
Liberals will not read Capital and then say Marx didn’t consider something he explicitly covered in Capital.
Marx did not invent the term “Capitalism.” It did originate with critics like Proudhon, who Marx was also critical of.
Is “liberalism” the primacy of private property relations in society? Many progressive liberals (including many in this comment thread, apparently) would disagree with you, while many Marxists would agree with you
