“Traitor,” okay. Canada may technically be a monarchy, but we don’t believe the monarch rules by divine right or something. They rule by appointment by Parliament. Parliament does not own us. Just because a person is born within Canada’s dominion does not place on them any moral or ethical obligation to support that state. How can someone who is not sworn to protect the state ever be a traitor?
Why don’t you go ask the Nazi sympathisers we executed for treason after the war about that?
If a state permits its citizens to betray the country in favour of an adversary in the event of a war, it’s incapable of protecting itself. The most important task of any society is to keep its members safe. A crucial aspect of that is accepting the social contract that everyone on the society will help keep each other safe, even in the event that an outside adversary invades and threatens to kill you. If you break that social contract- guess what? The rest of society will typically (at least historically) brand you as a traitor and imprison or execute you. Why? Because you’ve shown that you’re willing to put their head on the block for your own benefit, so they see you as a threat (perhaps the worst thinkable threat) to the security their society provides, and decide to remove that threat to protect themselves.
No matter what oath you have or haven’t taken, societies obligation to keep you safe only extends as far as your willingness to protect the society. This is why treason, in most societies, is seen as one of the worst, if not the worst, crime you can commit. It’s literally stabbing strangers that are willing to die for you and your family in the back.
Do you think the grandchildren of nazi resistors think their ancestor’s treasonous resistance was “the worst crime you can commit”?
We’re not at war. There is no fucking treason happening, except potentially by compromised politicians and bureaucrats. People who would like to see Alberta or Quebec succeed (regardless of which side of those borders they live on) and people who would like to amalgomate with the USA are not committing fucking treason. This is all so ignorantly hyperbolic, and it’s dangerous.
Sounds like a conservative that’s getting scared that thier views are becoming legitimately dangerous to have. To that I say: Good. We’ve been tolerating conservative rot for too long and letting the cookers slide too far to the right. It’s about time they start fearing for their lives the same way they make minorities fear for theirs. String up the traitors who want to negotiate with someone threatening to invade you.
“Traitor,” okay. Canada may technically be a monarchy, but we don’t believe the monarch rules by divine right or something. They rule by appointment by Parliament. Parliament does not own us. Just because a person is born within Canada’s dominion does not place on them any moral or ethical obligation to support that state. How can someone who is not sworn to protect the state ever be a traitor?
Why don’t you go ask the Nazi sympathisers we executed for treason after the war about that?
If a state permits its citizens to betray the country in favour of an adversary in the event of a war, it’s incapable of protecting itself. The most important task of any society is to keep its members safe. A crucial aspect of that is accepting the social contract that everyone on the society will help keep each other safe, even in the event that an outside adversary invades and threatens to kill you. If you break that social contract- guess what? The rest of society will typically (at least historically) brand you as a traitor and imprison or execute you. Why? Because you’ve shown that you’re willing to put their head on the block for your own benefit, so they see you as a threat (perhaps the worst thinkable threat) to the security their society provides, and decide to remove that threat to protect themselves.
No matter what oath you have or haven’t taken, societies obligation to keep you safe only extends as far as your willingness to protect the society. This is why treason, in most societies, is seen as one of the worst, if not the worst, crime you can commit. It’s literally stabbing strangers that are willing to die for you and your family in the back.
Do you think the grandchildren of nazi resistors think their ancestor’s treasonous resistance was “the worst crime you can commit”?
We’re not at war. There is no fucking treason happening, except potentially by compromised politicians and bureaucrats. People who would like to see Alberta or Quebec succeed (regardless of which side of those borders they live on) and people who would like to amalgomate with the USA are not committing fucking treason. This is all so ignorantly hyperbolic, and it’s dangerous.
Sounds like a conservative that’s getting scared that thier views are becoming legitimately dangerous to have. To that I say: Good. We’ve been tolerating conservative rot for too long and letting the cookers slide too far to the right. It’s about time they start fearing for their lives the same way they make minorities fear for theirs. String up the traitors who want to negotiate with someone threatening to invade you.