- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.world
Kaity has just spun up a PieFed instance, which is open to anyone that wants to try it out.
PieFed is part of the “Threadiverse” along with lemmy and mbin. If you are already reading this in lemmy, then you already know what PieFed is about.
If you’re curious to try it out, or if you’re just looking for a way to avoid lemmy, you can find it at https://piefed.blahaj.zone/
Like our lemmy instance, we have set PieFed applications to require manual approval, but if you’re already a member of our lemmy instance, you can get auto approved by our modbot by quoting your registration code somewhere in your application.
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registration is broken :(
We had someone apply a minute before you posted this, which I’ve now approved. If that was you, you should be able to sign in with it now.
Will look in to the error.
thanks! well i applied with my same username, it says no such account exists, also i used a registration code, if that helps
Your account exists and has been approved
okay nice thanks
Neat! I’ll have to play with it when I get the chance.
How does PieFed differ from Lemmy? At first glance, they seem like similar applications. Does it have any particular strengths or additional features I might want to try out?
There are lots of little usability improvements, and configuration options, but they are functionally very similar.
But it also has the advantage of not being written by the lemmy devs, which is a deal breaker for some folk
Could you please share context on the lemmy devs being a deal breaker?
One of the devs is a transphobe
Political stuff. The devs are also behind lemmygrad, for example.
The web site has a list of differences between Lemmy and PieFed:
- Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
- Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
- Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world
- People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
- Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
- Keyboard shortcuts.
- Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
- Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
- Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
- Voting is private.
- See also features for healthy communities.
- Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo
This list isn’t exhaustive; one major feature that’s not listed there is de-duplication, where reposts all get combined into a single post with a split comment section (one for each individual post).
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Probably not, because we have downvotes disabled :)
Thank you, I was worried :3
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Cool, a women indicator
(The joke is Lemmy is sexist mods please don’t ban me)
You’re correct though.
Anybody who isn’t the ‘default’ cishet able neurotypical white man is marginalised in society and even online, we’re also attacked a lot.
Which is one of the reasons downvotes are disabled here. A policy I hope will carry over to PieFed.
Yeah, though sadly this seems to make people a lot nastier in their comments sometimes, or perhaps they are juat awful to difference anyway. We still agree they should be disabled though as downvotes sound awful and are often used for mere disagreements, or bigotry, in practise.
Has anyone written about the functional differences between lemmy and piefed?
Apparently it’s mainly more feature-rich/up to date/stable? That’s usually what I read at least
Isn’t run by tankies
I get that whole thing but like…you don’t feel the tankie presence much, if ever, outside of ml/lemmygrad/hexbear. They just build lemmy. Like beehaw? Blahaj? Those aren’t run or influenced by tankies.
He also asked for the functional differences. Ideology didn’t really seem that relevant
Yeah, I don’t necessarily have to like the people who build the software I use. I don’t like MS or Cisco, but I’ve built a career on their work and I’m fine with that.
Not gonna use it then
Isn’t run by tankies
Lemmy is currently more mature and written in rust for safety. But development is very slow and the developer doesn’t seem that concerned. And lemmy as of five months ago still hasn’t put in development for mods to get their job done (https://lemmy.world/post/25339515/14978968)
Piefed is written in python. Devs seem more active and they’ve focused on speeding up popular features that people want from their social media discussion site. I haven’t used piefed yet. I don’t know if piefed actually provides more mod support which would be a big game changer.
The only solid number I know is that somebody a year ago compared their resource use and lemmy was using like 12x the resources of piefed.Edit: Ada hasn’t noticed any resource issues, see the rest of the thread.
is there pie? 🍰💖
Ill try it :3
common ada+kaity w
Ada and Kaity sitting in a tree! W. I. N. N. I. N. G!
And also kissing presumably
Lotsa kissys!
Do you have any thoughts on how the two compare in terms of resource utilization (CPU / RAM) given a similar number of users and activity?
I’ve been curious about this, because Rust, the programming language used for Lemmy, is supposed to be a LOT more CPU/RAM efficient than Python, the language used for Piefed. Python, on the other hand, is supposed to be much faster to initially develop in, which would at least partly explain how Piefed gained so many features so quickly compared to Lemmy.
We don’t have a point of comparison so far, because the instances don’t share the same concurrent user numbers, but it would be hard to beat lemmy, which is really light for the volume it handles.
Ok, thanks! Kind of what I expected both in terms of not being able to compare exactly and Lemmy being light. I appreciate it.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
The caveat here is of course that over time, software maturity and changes in prioritization of features (sacrificing efficiency for functionality or ease of use usually) results in certain decisions being made that affect the resource requirements.
It happened with lemmy (it used to be way more efficient than it is now), and it will happen to piefed too.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
Better in terms of lightness? I would be extremely surprised given the vast difference in performance and resource consumption of Python vs. Rust, and because apparently Piefed already has more features than Lemmy does. But maybe I misunderstood your point.
Interesting, never heard of piefed before, been using lemmy for a long time.
I wish there were more apps with piefed support. I like my gestures. Nonetheless, thanks alot fort the instance! Piefed seems great, I’ll be happy to try it out here.
I’ll just mention, in case it’s not apparent, Interstellar (the app) does support swipe gestures on posts and comments; you just need to enable them in the settings. I do realize the Blahaj PieFed instance hasn’t even enabled the API, so the app wouldn’t work with piefed.blahaj.zone yet.
BTW, I like your username :)
Oh, never mind, I just saw their comment about the API being enabled, so the app should work with piefed.blahaj.zone.
Oh, nice, good to know! Also thanks :)
Apparently, your namesake (Interstellar) supports PieFed, but I haven’t been able to log in to Blahaj’s instance with it. It keeps giving me an error saying the API is not enabled.
Yeah, i quite like my lemmy app (even if it is pretty much dead at this point). Eternity UI is very cozy to me.
What exactly is the “threadiverse?”
Any activitypub enabled software that mimics the Reddit style of longform thread/forum style social media with distinct topics.
Which at the moment is Lemmy, Piefed, and Mbin.
Lemmy Piefed and Kbin I think.
So content aggregators on the fedi?
silly question and it’s probably not possible but i wonder if there’s a way to sync the sticky posts from this community on piefed too (or make this community more prominent on piefed) since ive been using the piefed instance more and more now that i got used to it. :^
We don’t have any stickied posts on lemmy at the moment, so there is nothing to sync, but as I understand it, they will sync fine
That being said, another thing you can do is turn on notifications for the community itself. That way, you’ll get a notification whenever someone makes a new post (not comment) to the community. You can do the same thing with individual posts too, and get notifications whenever someone replies to a post, even if you didn’t make the original post!
Post pinning should be fixed now between Lemmy and Piefed, so if the mods unpin/repin it it should work
but like in the main screen when you first go to the page where it lists all of your subscribed posts. sometimes on lemmy they would stick to the top from the meta subreddit. :^
I’m not sure if this is a Piefed software issue or a Piefed Blahaj federation issue; has anyone had trouble getting communities from slrpnk.net to show up on the page to add a remote community? I’ve been trying to add !birding@slrpnk.net, which as far as I can tell is still up and functioning, but PF Blahaj just gives an error that says “Community not found.”
EDIT: facepalm, I was checking to see if it was up on my Blahaj lemmy account. slrpnk.net itself is down. Dunno how I missed that happening, but in my defense there’s been a little bit going on in LA right now 😅
Basically a message for Kaity, but I am getting a
ClientException: Request failed with status 400: Bad Request: {"error":"alpha api is not enabled"} , uri=https://piefed.blahaj.zone/api/alpha/user/loginwhen using the Interstellar App and wanted to bring it to your attention. Thanks <3
I’ll check it out. See what this alpha API thing is all about.
API now enabled!
Post about it in Blåhaj PieFed Meta:
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/post/34431
Piefed doesn’t have great 3rd party app support at the moment
cool
I think I’m not really a fan of any of the existing mobile app options for PieFed. I’ll definitely keep an eye on that and see if any ones that I like more become available.
