• Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    They say this a lot, so I expect they have some machinery running to demonstrate the technology here on earth? We have plenty of hydrogen here after all.

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      3 days ago

      Correct. It’s called the Sabatier reaction and it’s over 100 years old.

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          3 days ago

          Oddly enough when the process was demonstrated by French scientists in the 1800s they did it in space, so the earth has yet to see this advanced technology.

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            3 days ago

            Since it’s been around so long, surely there exists a plant somewhere that is creating methane at scale? Or a system has been designed that will produce enough methane to fill a starship economically? This problem must be long solved, I should be able to buy an off the shelf methane generator, no?

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              2 days ago

              Are you being obtuse or do you have a point? A Sabatier reactor has flown on the ISS, so they exist clearly. Audi had a pilot plant producing methane using this method as recently as 10 years ago.

              It’s obvious the technology exists, and has been tested in space, and is viable on mars according to numerous studies dating back from the 80s to current day.

              Do you have any proof to the contrary? I’m a huge space nerd so if there’s a fatal flaw in this plan I’d like to know.

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                1 day ago

                My point is, if there’s not a simple box you can buy that makes methane on earth, we’re a long way away from a methane factory on Mars. Spacex has said they’re not working on it and hope someone else does. Without this magical machine there will be no people landing on Mars. Or, more specifically, no people leaving Mars.

                My further point is, the whole Mars thing is just a bullshit ruse to trick us into funding the launch of capitalism into space.

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                  1 day ago

                  magical machine bullshit ruse to trick us into funding the launch of capitalism into space

                  Your ideology begets your conclusions. You are a troll, intentional or not.

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                    23 hours ago

                    Fair. But before I leave, let me challenge you to consider how your ideology might be determining your own conclusions.