• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 days ago

    It’s just a reality of nature that humans soaked in male hormones while they develop gain about a 25% advantage in physical sports.

    People who transition to female are taking female hormones, dummy. A friend explained how even her sense of taste changed and she no longer likes some things she used to like.

    Hey, guess what? Your argument is shit.

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      3 days ago

      OK, but can you please tell me why its “shit”?

      is it that you think its incorrect? I see stuff like this NIH study below specifically about atheletic performance in a transgender population at time of transition and after a period of performance change and it doesnt match whats presented in the links people replied with-- but heres the problem, I trust the NIH study more than I trust the arguments given in such a vehement and angry way in the other links. I have no real skin in this game. I beleive everyone has soveriegnty over their own body and if it doesn’t very explicitely hurt me or another person, I say live your best life.

      “post gender affirming hormone therapy, trans women still surpassed cis women for their 1.5 mile run time (765 ± 39.83 s. vs. 855 ± 40.56 s.), but performed significantly slower than cis men (720 ± 40.56 s.) unlike their pre hormone therapy assessment”

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10641525/

      So why is this study wrong? thats a 90 second on average run advantage on a 1.5 mile course. In sports thats a lot.

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      catty rhetoric and response like this are why we’re in the current degrading sociopolitical situation.

      idk why most leftist seem to get the idea that being right means you no longer have to try in discourse.

      hey, guess what? people will listen to you more if you actually try and engage instead of being a shithead every time someone “gives bad vibes.”

      going harder on this stuff than before as a reaction to the rising tide of neofascist in the west is the most boneheaded thing i’ve seen come out of my spaces on the internet as of yet. have you considering that this divisiveness only serves the people who actually want to oppress you?? it’s not an “eNlIGhteNeD cENtrIsT” take to recognize this, it’s just being mildly intelligent. anyone decently well-read on their “theory” that everyone likes to harp on about would know that this is the fucking case and refrain from DOING IT OVER AND OVER.

      but no, instead the temptation of a well-placed social burn or a quippy remark is just too strong for most to even consider that the exchange would better serve the world if an actual attempt at communication was made. no, being “tired” or “exhausted” at having this responsibility is not an excuse. sorry, outreach doesn’t fucking sleep or take vacation. instead people now just seem to need the dopamine rush they get from “winning” more than they actually care about what they’re saying.

      i don’t mean to be a dick and all j’accuse at you. idk. it just really hurts my soul when i see this behavior propagate in my communities. it’s like you guys understand that bigotry, intolerance, and hate are bad but you don’t get the functional reasons why that is true and so there’s a moral emptiness and inconsistency in your rhetoric. i’ll venture as far to say it, if you actually cared about this issue you would’ve engaged in a more proactive manner, and that goes for all situations like this.

      this sort of comment, while likely well intentioned, is performative activism at best

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        3 days ago

        if you actually cared about this issue you would’ve engaged in a more proactive manner, and that goes for all situations like this.

        Don’t try to tell me whether I truly care about my loved ones. You fight for people your way, I’ll fight my way.