• Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      It’s true that symbols and gestures can have historical origins that predate their modern meanings. However, intent and context always matter. The Nazi salute, whether or not it had roots in an earlier Roman gesture, is now overwhelmingly associated with fascism, white supremacy, and authoritarianism. When a public figure—especially a political leader—uses a gesture that resembles it, people have every reason to question why.

      Dismissing those concerns as “a stretch” ignores the reality that optics matter in politics. If a leader doesn’t want to be associated with fascist imagery, they have a responsibility to be mindful of what they do. The burden isn’t on the public to assume good intentions—it’s on the leader to avoid any association with dangerous ideologies.

      As for the claim that Democrats are “closer to democratic socialism” and thus closer to Nazis, that’s a misreading of political history. The Nazis were far-right ultranationalists who used state control to consolidate power, suppress opposition, and enforce racial supremacy. Democratic socialism, on the other hand, is about expanding worker protections and social welfare within a democratic system—not authoritarian rule.

      Finally, while I agree that finding common ground is valuable, pretending that ideological divides are just trivial differences overlooks the very real stakes involved. Not all disagreements are just about policy—they’re about fundamental values, including democracy itself. If one side is leaning into authoritarianism, that’s not a “both sides” issue. It’s a problem that needs to be called out.

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      9 hours ago

      When exactly will you start believing the reality before you rather than the one you conjure to insulate yourself from reality?

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          Yeah they’re not using swastikas and fascist salutes for their religious or spiritual significance. Dragging that tired old shit out of about as brick headed as the dipshits who insist the nsp was actually socialist in any meaningful way.

          Stop apologizing, just say your a fascist and wear it proudly like everyone else since it’s somehow not social suicide anymore.