More like: 13 soon-to-be Republicans.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/13-moderate-democrats-reject-socialism-174443764.html
We are capitalist, not socialist
It’s pathetic that they didn’t even read the wiki page on socialism before declaring themselves to be against it. They don’t seem to be aware of market socialism and mixed economies. If they truly had the best interests of their constituents in mind, they would perform basic research before ruling out entire economic philosophies.
They don’t seem to be aware of market socialism.
No offense to Americans but i find them insular as if no other ideas exist if it is not from the US. I don’t blame ordinary Americans because they are conditioned by corporate media that ultimately cater to the capitalist narrative.
Im just over economic growth, we don’t need anymore economic growth. We make enough food housing and medicine to take care of everyone twice over. There’s zero benefit to more economic growth, it’s just more money for billionaires to waste labor on luxuries like insanely huge party yachts and weddings in fairy tale settings.
Yeah and constant economic growth has huge downsides like global ecological collapse and climate change.
If the left did a Jan 6th then these “lesser evils” would be fighting and crawling over themselves be part of the firing squads.
The democratic party is technically more than one party all shoved into one, who knew? Just like the republican party.
Maybe Republicans 15 years ago.
Trump has cleaned out any Republican dissenters.
If you don’t kiss the orange cock, he sends death threats your way.
I bet they keep this pledge, they’ll be like "sorry minimum wage is still 7.50 in 2030, BUT we did oppose that Mamdami guy! We promise to raise minimum wage by 2040, super swear believe it!
Here are the MAGA DINOS that just sacrificed their careers. Vote against them at every opportunity.
Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-NY) — Co-leading the initiative
Rep. Adam Gray (D-CA) — Co-leading the initiative
Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)
Rep. Susie Lee (D-NV)
Rep. Don Davis (D-NC)
Rep. Vicente Gonzalez Jr. (D-TX)
Rep. Laura Gillen (D-NY)
Rep. Janelle Bynum (D-OR)
Rep. Kristin McDonald Rivet (D-MI)
Rep. Maggie Goodlander (D-NH)
Jessica Killin (candidate)
Marlene Galán Woods (candidate)
Bobby Pulido (candidate)
Those last three shouldn’t win. Don’t vote MAGA, vote 3rd party. If any of the rest survive their primary or elections, and the Dems take the majority, they should be shunned, and prohibited from holding any positions of authority on committees or anything else. Their careers are over.
The narrative framing is coordinated now that democrats “allowed” fascism by not controlling their opposition party’s secret agent spy democrats??? …just like how democrats were the party fighting FOR slaves in the civil war because of cross party corrupting co-option turn-coating exactly like this but just the reverse now? Cool cool.
Small correction: The Democratic Socialists are the “DINOs”.
These listed are actual party-line Democrats.
26 palms that now have more money than most of those reading this thread
Unfortunately, unless you can get enough people on board that surpasses the number of MAGA, a vote for 3rd party might as well be a vote for MAGA. I don’t see how it’d end any different compared to the 1912 Presidential Election. I could be wrong though, maybe Trump has pissed off enough people to make 3rd party viable
I hope ranked choice voting continues to make inroads in the US. Massachusetts and Alaska now have it for many statewide elections, and as more people are exposed to it hopefully the part of the opposition that is rooted in unfamiliarity will recede.
Being able to express a first choice for a third party, and then rank a second choice of the lesser evil of the major parties and have it count has the potential to reshape campaigning and voting behavior.
Yeah, it’s the only way we are going to keep the 2 major political parties in the united states in check and we won’t be forced to vote blue no matter who
I’ve been hearing that argument for a handful of decades and the Democrats still haven’t changed. When do we say enough is enough and I won’t keep kicking the football Lucy is holding for me?
Just because the argument has been repeated many times that doesn’t make it any less true. I do think that Democrats who take advantage of the fact that we have a 2 party system is a problem, but I think we fix that by advocating for ranked choice voting. Otherwise, a third party winning in a major election is a pipe dream. If they truly wanted to build a presence, they should be trying to win more minor elections to build themselves up rather than going for a hail mary for a Senate seat or as the president. Luckily, there are only few Democrats right now that I’d consider to be just Republicans painted blue. In the niche cases where that’s true, then maybe consider voting third party
Exactly we’ve been hearing that for 40 years now at least and every election cycle dems move farther right right behind the republicans.
If you think that’s true you’re seriously not paying attention at all.
Compare a 1990 dem to now and tell me theyre right of them.
There’s plenty to criticize of the dems but let’s not be foolish.
There’s a long history of rich assholes who support democracy siding with rich assholes who don’t support democracy over democracy supporters interested in social change.
Goes back at least to the mid-1800’s
Rich people don’t support democracy. Democracy is fundamentally incompatible with wealth inequality.
The 1840’s would like to have a word. This was not a defense of rich people, just what history has shown.
“We promise America we will continue to make sure our donors can fuck you all as hard and rough as they want.”
I love this. Give us a specific list of who to never vote for.
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Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-NY) — Co-leading the initiative
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Rep. Adam Gray (D-CA) — Co-leading the initiative
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Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)
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Rep. Susie Lee (D-NV)
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Rep. Don Davis (D-NC)
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Rep. Vicente Gonzalez Jr. (D-TX)
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Rep. Laura Gillen (D-NY)
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Rep. Janelle Bynum (D-OR)
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Rep. Kristin McDonald Rivet (D-MI)
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Rep. Maggie Goodlander (D-NH)
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Jessica Killin (candidate)
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Marlene Galán Woods (candidate)
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Bobby Pulido (candidate)
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Liberals will always side with fascists before they side with communists, as fascism doesn’t threaten their power.
There was one time they didn’t, and the rest of the libs haven’t forgiven them
Threaten it? It gives them more…
Bill Clinton named an airport after Ronald Reagan, the guy who fired something like 10,000 FAA air traffic controllers for wanting to strike.
Biden told the rail road engineers who were almost literally begging to be treated like human beings they couldn’t strike, here’s more money you don’t have any time to spend, and kiss my ass because “I am the pro-union” president. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute
Newsom pushed through a age verification law. How can that work unless it is a national login page? Reddit, imgur, lemmy/piefed, and pretty much everything else would require a digital bouncer at the door because none of this is designed to keep a tiny fraction of the countries total population from being psychologically scared like all the rest of us have been.
Establishment Democrats have been enabling the Republicans for decades.
Makes much more sense how we got here when you realize the Democrats haven’t been that different from Republicans.
They push the exact same neoliberal policies, they just act slightly nicer to gay people while they do it.
Fascism with a pride sticker.
It’s like those two managers at work. One is a sweetheart, and everybody wants to be on their team. The other is an insufferable sonuvabitch that makes every minute at work miserable, and nobody wants to be on his team.
But make no mistake, despite their total opposite approaches, they both have the same job - to advance the corporation’s agenda. Ultimately, they both have the same objective.
That’s Rebublicans vs Democrats.
-“psychologically scarred?”
Yeah, we would hate for kids to find out what human genitalia look like. If we do a good enough job, they’ll go their entire lives without ever learning that boys and girls have different parts in their pants.
Hardcore porn is a little different from general nudity and access to it probably has a bigger impact on a child’s development than you want to admit.
Banning kids from corporate social media is also objectively a good thing. Banning everyone would be better.
Porn doesn’t have anywhere close to the impact as a lifetime of mass surveillance and government control that impacts every aspect of your life, forever.
capitalists gonna capitalism
Criminals gonna crime. FIFY.
same same.
“Vote blue no matter who!”
People are voting for blue candidates who promise to do good things and not do bad things.
“Over my dead body they are!”
There’s always a part of that phrase that gets left out
“Vote blue no matter who…. during the general election”
Prior to that. Primary the hell out of anyone that isn’t progressive. Change the party from the bottom up. And guess what, you’re starting to see that actually happen and it scares the establishment. Let’s keep it going.
That’s actually started in a way.
Hilarious that candidates are being endorsed by the mayor of New York.
New York City has a population greater than all but twelve states. It’s like if the governor of Virginia were a wildly popular national figure and started endorsing primary candidates.
Yeah that makes it make sense.
Anyway, it’s good, because the bloke stands for something decent and it is reps like him who will pull the country out of its problems if that’s possible.
Adam Gray won his June 2nd primary, running against a more progressive Democratic challenger but also two Republicans in a California Jungle Primary. A Republican finished second and will be his opponent in November. The progressive finished 4th.
Rotating villains
Ok? So does that mean you’re going to vote for the Republican since the progressive candidate lost?
Oh it’s not my district. I’m just pointing out that a lot of Democrats and Independents in this conservative district probably chose the Moderate Democrat because he had a chance, and they didn’t want to wind up with 2 Republicans in the final.
that saying is basically admitting that they are right and you will fold when the cards are on the table? why take you seriously then?
I know this is a hot take, but these are mostly in red states. Also, yesterday it was 15, so progress?
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Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-NY) — Co-leading the initiative
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Rep. Adam Gray (D-CA) — Co-leading the initiative
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Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)
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Rep. Susie Lee (D-NV)
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Rep. Don Davis (D-NC)
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Rep. Vicente Gonzalez Jr. (D-TX)
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Rep. Laura Gillen (D-NY)
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Rep. Janelle Bynum (D-OR)
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Rep. Kristin McDonald Rivet (D-MI)
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Rep. Maggie Goodlander (D-NH)
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Jessica Killin (candidate)
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Marlene Galán Woods (candidate)
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Bobby Pulido (candidate)
Primary hit list. They all need to go.
Every single one of them supports big corporations over people
Fuck all of them. I hope they all get primaried to hell.
Bynum has been just a parade of milquetoast disappointment for OR5. I’m kind of surprised Gluesenkamp-Perez isn’t on the list, maybe she’s too conservative to count as a ‘moderate dem’
Get got, Gottheimer. What a shithead
Yeah, not at all surprised to see him on the list tbh.
He’s consistently on the wrong side of history whenever an opportunity presents itself.
He described himself as “socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and passionately centrist”
🤮🤮🤮
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What a bunch of cunts. Why don’t they fight Trump this hard?
The Senate Dem leader Chuck Schumer kowtows to this fictional family he invented who he admits are MAGA supporters (that is when he isn’t putting America behind Israel). So the voters who elected this stupid fuck come third, at best. The rest of the Dem leadership seems to be fine with this ideological cuckoldry of playing to lose. I really do wish we had a viable third party to work with and could be rid of these clowns.
Because he has enough policies that align with them that they don’t actually hate him.
Isn’t that just nuts? Like, boy I’m against his baby killing policy, but I sure do like moderate tax cuts.
I know. What fucking pieces of shit. All of them.
They told you, they’re “Capitalists.” Seemed real proud of it, too.
