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England said she believes the measure would have fared differently if it was on a ballot with higher voter turnout, like the November general election.
I mean, ya, sure, but… WTF people? Every single one of you making less than $12/hour in Oklahoma had the opportunity to literally vote to give yourselves a huge raise, and a lot of you apparently couldn’t be bothered??? Low turnout elections are the perfect opportunity for a small number of people to make a big difference on things like this! You had the advantage!
Hi, when I’m not in China I’m in the Choctaw Nation which is unfortunately in Oklahoma because Mississippi was just too valuable when they were carving out reservations I guess so I can give a lived experience perspective. You’re forgetting several key facts of this:
A) Voter suppression here in Oklahoma is real. Not only are you not going to be approved for time off to vote, you’ll probably be made fun of, and there will not be many campaigns getting you to try to vote. Also while there’s ‘anti voter manipulation laws’ (aka you can’t give water or food to people in line at a polling station, even if its medically necessary, and you can’t wear “political” shirts) there’s no law and usually no rules stopping you from being armed; so armed people “protect” polling stations.
B) Oklahoma is 50th in education and like 2nd in Churches per capita. This has obvious effects on its population.
C) If you’re somehow able to get past the intimidation and lack of polling places… congrats, you’ve been inundated with propaganda for the entirety of the election cycle. Facebook, which is the most popular social media site in Oklahoma, has had millions of dollars worth of ads pumped into it to spread disinformation on SQ 832. This disinformation campaign was repeated by every major employer, every church, and in every major community center. Which lead to:
D) No one actually supports this in Oklahoma. They believe, genuinely, at best, this will lead to higher prices and just uncap inflation entirely. Oklahoma has been behind the nation in terms of the recent cost of living crisis, but it’s just now really starting to come into effect. 2 years ago rent for a two bedroom in rural oklahoma (which is most of Oklahoma) was $400/month. It’s now up to $800/month. Anywhere near the two cities it was closer to $1k and now it’s up to $1500/month. The propaganda has played on this fact to stoke fear that it’ll just shoot up even higher (even though labor costs are practically nothing for rentals and thus don’t affect rent prices).
So you have a combination of literally financially not being able to afford voting, literally not being allowed to vote, and of course literally not being informed enough to want to vote because of propaganda.
To add to this Democrats and even socialist orgs which should flourish here give absolutely zero attention or resources to the state. Not that dems would help much here, given the only dems that get elected are Southern Democrats which are just Reagan Republicans except even more racist; but the point remains there’s no money countering the big money propaganda being pushed through every available channel.
So this outcome was entirely predictable.
E) if I don’t vote republican now, they ain’t gonna let me on the yacht party when I, myself, am eventually (VERY soon actually I think) a billionaire.
Thanks for the information, super insightful.
Because they’re strapped and they have been taught that this will raise costs for them.
Keep people as poor as possible and you can control them easier.
For conservatives, I eat shit if it hurts the people I hate, is a source of pride.
Bunch of brainwashed bootlickers.
LOL. Wow.
I’ve long held the minimum wage should be pegged to cost of living and inflation reporting and not be voted for each raise to it. This way anytime a business tries to jack prices beyond their added costs, it bites them in the ass.
Indexing salaries to inflation has been done in the past in Brazil and it let to hyperinflation in the 80s.
See i like this idea of pegging the min wage to inflation too, but the government(s all over) has been lying about inflation reports for over 6 years now. So they’ll just fudge the numbers even worse to never go up more than a percent a year.
All right, well, half of you Oklahomians, don’t be bitching about inflation. Because you had your chance and threw it out the window.
They literally believe higher minimum wage causes inflation
If so then they break even… be brave hogs be brave… It is this culture that makes me sick
No, not even half, it was decided by 1/4th of the voting population. 2.4 million voters registered in Oklahoma and only 630,085 voted on this state question.
348,914 against
281,171 for the proposalI wonder how many of those who did not vote were disenfranchised
Honestly, its hard to say for sure but they do have early voting on the Thursday, Friday, and Saturday preceding the Tuesday election, so there seems to be ample opportunity aside from just the election day for people to vote if they want to.
Not surprising.
Gerry and his mandering55% of Oklahoma are morons.
This isn’t gerrymandering. That’s not how gerrymandering works.
How does gerrymandering in Oklahoma, and why is this not gerrymandering?
Gerrymandering is a concept based upon controlling the voter base through unfair or targeted groupings, districts, etc… For a Statewide vote that’s not a factor. The entire State votes, there are no districts.
Hmm I see. Well, 55% of Oklahoma are morons.
It’s a popular vote. How are you gonna gerrymander that? It’s one person one vote. There may be other voting suppression going on but definitely not gerrymandering.
Hmm I see. Well, 55% of Oklahoma are morons.
it is a little bit of both… dum dums are created… stupidity is a choice and so are habits… I was once a dum dum… well still a little but yeah no war but the class war.
