• fubo@lemmy.world
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    Deepfakes of an actual child should be considered defamatory use of a person’s image; but they aren’t evidence of actual abuse the way real CSAM is.

    Remember, the original point of the term “child sexual abuse material” was to distinguish images/video made through the actual abuse of a child, from depictions not involving actual abuse – such as erotic Harry Potter fanfiction, anime characters, drawings from imagination, and the like.

    Purely fictional depictions, not involving any actual child being abused, are not evidence of a crime. Even deepfake images depicting a real person, but without their actual involvement, are a different sort of problem from actual child abuse. (And should be considered defamatory, same as deepfakes of an adult.)

    But if a picture does not depict a crime of abuse, and does not depict a real person, it is basically an illustration, same as if it was drawn with a pencil.

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      Remember, the original point of the term “child sexual abuse material” was to distinguish images/video made through the actual abuse of a child, from depictions not involving actual abuse – such as erotic Harry Potter fanfiction, anime characters, drawings from imagination, and the like.

      although that distinction lasted about a week before the same bad actors who cancel people over incest fanfic started calling all the latter CSEM too

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        As a sometime fanfic writer, I do notice when fascists attack sites like AO3 under a pretense of “protecting children”, yes.

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          And it’s usually fascists, or at least people who may not consider themselves as such but think and act like fascists anyways.

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      Add in an extra twist. Hopefully if the sickos are at least happy with AI stuff they won’t need “real”

      Sadly, a lot of it does evolve from wanting to “watch” to wanting to do

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        Sadly, a lot of it does evolve from wanting to “watch” to wanting to do

        This is the part where I disagree and I would love ppl to prove me wrong. Because whether this is true or false, it will probably be the deciding factor in allowing or restricting “artificial CSAM”.

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          Some people are sadists and rapists, yes, regardless of what age group they’d want to do it with.