Actually mj stans who are bothered by Lebron merely viewing himself this way are the ones most bothered by it. Nobody else should care , if any consensus top 15~ player views themselves this way I don’t even think there’s anything wrong with that . Some people like to be fake humble in public though and have the media have an entire propaganda campaign to sell them as goat. It has been bizarre for me as someone who was neutral and uncaring for goat that somehow despite being older mj fans have worse arguments n act more offended or like it’s not a discussion. Blinded by nostalgia I presume or they use media designated awards to decide FOR THEM how good a basketball player was when we all criticise how bad the media are at that at times especially on defense; it’s also worth noting that nobody really here’s anything much from mj post retirement anyone who think that man doesn’t think ( for also good reasons ) he’s the best ever is daft n playing some weird morality game.

The Jordan mythology is far stronger and for ages now you’ve had media constantly further that legacy , I don’t think Bron will be the myth is goat but who played the most impactful on winning basketball games , basketball , over the course of their careers? I would say it’s Lebron n I don’t even say this to hate but I only put mj second of asked cos I cba with the folk who think Kareem ( or russel? Not me personally but I think it’s a fair take ) is slanderous to put Jordan below 2. If people want to be angry fine but for those who want to see some interesting discussion I’d recommend realgm /player comparison board for basketball. There’s people there ( for mj too ) with well thought out explanations that are interesting. Mj was the goat there untill 2020 narrowly losing to Bron and in this years ranking the margin is pronounced. The criteria there is : expected amount of championship odds ( it’s more in depth ofc) but this is imo the best way to judge a player. If you played out theur career who would drive you to the most success?

I also think average fans have little idea how difficult it is for mj to have actual dpoy impact . Go look through nba history of elite defences : especially playoffs ones. You will not find any anchored by guards : it’s big men or the pippen/Lebron ( pg n Kawhi i woukd list too but it’s style large forward who can offer some degree of rim protection : because that is more valuable.

I’ve already written too much n there are places where this is discussed in detail n with data far beyond me which I will link if anyone cares to read for fun. I do think it is interesting that if Bron wins one more ring I believe the majority will eventually believe he’s the goat . But does that mean he’s actually a better player ? Ofc not, unless he adds something objectively new/better.