Nobody in here saw Wilt play

I remember an effortpost someone made on here in which he adjusted Wilt’s stats for pace along with some other factors iirc and while still impressive they drop from unbelievable to more or less prime Shaq-level, again still great but the muh 100 points/50 ppg argument def mythologizes Wilt’s offensive output. And at least Shaq could maintain his numbers in the postseason, same with Jokic, Wilt however always wilted somewhat lol, so idk there probably is an argument for Jokic over Wilt offensively.

Different eras, can’t compare

Offseason is over homie

Just to be clear, Jokic is not more efficient for his era. Nearly every year Wilt set the record for points, he was scoring with efficiency as impressive as Jokic’s first MVP season. When Wilt was scoring as little as prime Jokic, he was as efficient or moreso.

You seem to be overestimating the skill gap. Wilt was generally much more skilled as a scorer, but he didn’t have the range or reliable free throws Jokic does (Jokic’s greatest scoring gift is how terrified offenses are to crowd him). Jokic is better a passer, but not by as much as you seem to think; Wilt was still doing things we haven’t seen Jokic do or at least do quite as well as Wilt.

Wilt had high “basketball iq” and even Jerry West said he was one the best at knowing what the other players were going to do before they did it.

Other than shooting range, Jokic’s biggest offensive gap is being a fantastic floor general. While Wilt proved he could facilitate the greatest offense the game had ever seen, he wasn’t making that level of adjustments in his team’s schemes to create or exploit flaws in his opponent’s defense.

Wilt was drafted only a year before Oscar Robertson and everyone then still considered Wilt to be the “greatest offensive player ever”.

The fact that Jokic is in the conversation and is still improving is downright amazing… but there’s no way I’m crowning him this early in his career.

No one knows. I have Wilt in my top 5 ever. He’s the statistically the most dominant statistical player ever and we don’t know how many blocks he had, but some redditor did an evaluation of over 100 games and found it was like over 8 a game or something nuts.

Like you can try to adjust for pace, competition, or reduce wilt’s minutes to the current league average (which makes zero sense based on how many MPG he averaged), but the reality is that he averaged 50 for a season. Put up 100 in a game. and is one of two players to average more than 30 for his career, and that was with a big fall off.

There was 8 teams when wilt played and he won 2 championship’s he is overrated like crazy

wilt an unstopable scoring machine, we will probably never see another big man put up 100 points in an game, when people talk stat padding he basically invented that.

Unless the nba adds an 4/5 point line in the future perhaps changes in the rules that favor jokic maybe but it seems highly unlikely.

Love Jokic, but last time I checked, the NBA hasn’t changed any rules to slow him down. Yet.

When you factor in Pace of the game, Wilt seems a lot more down to earth.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/XIM3QdIwK3

I do think that all said and done, Jokic will be up there as one of the best offensive players ever. Is he already up there ? I want to say yes.