If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president, it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.
Many of my journalist colleagues have attempted to beat back the tide under banners like “fighting disinformation” and “accountability.” While these efforts are admirable, the past few years have changed my own internal calculus. Thinkers like Jean-Paul Sartre and Hannah Arendt warned us that the point of this deluge is not to persuade, but to overwhelm and paralyze our capacity to act. More recently, researchers have found that the viral outrage disseminated on social media in response to these ridiculous claims actually reduces the effectiveness of collective action. The result is a media environment that keeps us in a state of debilitating fear and anger, endlessly reacting to our oppressors instead of organizing against them.
Cross’ book contains a meticulous catalog of social media sins which many people who follow and care about current events are probably guilty of—myself very much included. She documents how tech platforms encourage us, through their design affordances, to post and seethe and doomscroll into the void, always reacting and never acting.
But perhaps the greatest of these sins is convincing ourselves that posting is a form of political activism, when it is at best a coping mechanism—an individualist solution to problems that can only be solved by collective action. This, says Cross, is the primary way tech platforms atomize and alienate us, creating “a solipsism that says you are the main protagonist in a sea of NPCs.”
In the days since the inauguration, I’ve watched people on Bluesky and Instagram fall into these same old traps. My timeline is full of reactive hot takes and gotchas by people who still seem to think they can quote-dunk their way out of fascism—or who know they can’t, but simply can’t resist taking the bait. The media is more than willing to work up their appetites. Legacy news outlets cynically chase clicks (and ad dollars) by disseminating whatever sensational nonsense those in power are spewing.
This in turn fuels yet another round of online outrage, edgy takes, and screenshots exposing the “hypocrisy” of people who never cared about being seen as hypocrites, because that’s not the point. Even violent fantasies about putting billionaires to the guillotine are rendered inept in these online spaces—just another pressure release valve to harmlessly dissipate our rage instead of compelling ourselves to organize and act.
This is the opposite of what media, social or otherwise, is supposed to do. Of course it’s important to stay informed, and journalists can still provide the valuable information we need to take action. But this process has been short-circuited by tech platforms and a media environment built around seeking reaction for its own sake.
“For most people, social media gives you this sense that unless you care about everything, you care about nothing. You must try to swallow the world while it’s on fire,” said Cross. “But we didn’t evolve to be able to absorb this much info. It makes you devalue the work you can do in your community.”
It’s not that social media is fundamentally evil or bereft of any good qualities. Some of my best post-Twitter moments have been spent goofing around with mutuals on Bluesky, or waxing romantic about the joys of human creativity and art-making in an increasingly AI-infested world. But when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.
While I like to agree with that vision of decentralized social media, even here on lemmy we have our own pitfalls. Echo chambers are unchecked and defederation (even justified) happens.
I don’t assume everyone here is a real person. There was a article recently that AI was training “persuasiveness” using reddit subreddits. I have to believe a similar trial exists on the fediverse least I be caught off guard.
Plus, there are a lot of folks here (it seems like a majority sometimes in my personal experience) that are quick to advocate violence/sabotage in lieu of negotiation and debate. That reaks of puppeteering; there can’t be that many arseholes here, right?
I know I have some strong biases that lean towards peace, and I’m confused sometimes why a comment of mine in the fediverse gathers double digit upvotes steadily only to plummet to the negatives overnight. I get old reddit botnet vibes on some topics.
I suppose I want to like lemmy, the freedom, these communities, but it is still polarizing and influenceable by [insert tech/political/financial interests]. I don’t trust this enough to recommend to friends and family, but my presence here makes it a fraction more what I want to be.
That’s because there are a lot of marginlized folks here - gay, trans, autistic, linux users - who have spent decades disucssing politely and negotiating.
Problem is the people throwing Nazi salutes and writing all these executive orders have, quite clearly, said they want us all either dead or in camps.
Now I wouldn’t dream of speaking for everyone else, but I’m certainly not going to be attempting to politely debate myself out of a one-way train ride, if it comes to that.
So, yeah, while I don’t encourage violence for the sake of violence, the neoliberal ‘oh dear we must all be very polite at all times and let rationality solve all our issues!’ is dead and worthless.
I’ve taken classes for and armed myself, and I have zero qualms with defending myself and friends and family by any means necessary if it comes down to a situation where it’s us-or-them, regardless of who ‘them’ is.
If you told me even five years ago that I’d be carrying a gun and be fully prepared to use deadly force to defend myself I’d have called you goofy, and if you told me that I’d be willing to use it against agents of the state if they came after me, I’d think you have lost your damn mind.
But, well, it’s been a long 5 years, and frankly, IMO, the rule of law and the trust in any governmental institutions have been eroded into nothing.
Amazing take, no notes. I’ve done my due diligence, I’ve voted, I’ve canvassed for campaigns, I’ve donated to the right people.
I will NOT be debating with fascists or agitators while my friends and family members get taken away for being trans or the wrong shade of brown (or a Linux user lol). Someone in a more privileged position than me can.
I used that time to get my carry license instead.
I feel seen
Hahahaha you said linux users in the same breath of marginalized folk.
The cloud is linux. I don’t think social media is where we’re marginalized.
I agree with everything else you’ve said.
https://socialistra.org
That was a joke. And besides, only certain distributions count anyways. Keep an eye out for our Slackware brothers, they need our help and support in these times.
Yeah I got the joke, that’s why I laughed. Sorry if it came off as snarky. Text doesn’t do a good job of relating humor or laughter sometimes.
In regards to Slackware…woosh. My first edit of this missed the joke completely. Yes Slackware needs our help, all 32bit distros could use a little help honestly.
I read in another thread that Elon is telling gov employees to stop using Slack due to FOIA…
If you’re being told to get off Slack by your new illegal oberlords the below may be of interest.
Mattermost is a great substitute for self hosting comms. So is Element over Matrix or just the signal app.
https://mattermost.com/download/
https://element.io/matrix-benefits
https://signal.org/download/
For those interested, if you’re organizing use E2E comms and if you’re researching use Tor Browser. Better yet use a Tails USB on a coffee shop wifi.
https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-use-signal
https://www.torproject.org/download/
https://tails.net/doc/first_steps/index.en.html
And don’t communicate over email, even encrypted email.
For a place to start looking for aid and assistance. If there’s a fridge or book or tool share that’s not there, notify them please so they can update the site.
https://mutualaidhub.org
If you’re looking for a place to help, look up Food Not Bombs plus whatever city is closest to you.
http://foodnotbombs.net/new_site/volunteer.php
I understand it’s an http site. Don’t sign up for anything that doesn’t pass your vibe check.
Something like 80% of all theft at this point is unpaid wages.
You have to understand that a system that calls corporations people is inherently violent. Profit is unpaid labor, so the existence of a tax code that not only allows -but celebrates and defends- billionaires is class warfare. If you steal $1000 from a store, the police show up. If the store steals $1000 from your paycheck the police tell you to get a lawyer with a $5k retainer. The store’s existence isn’t hampered by the $1,000 while most families would be ruined without out.
However, the only instance of the crime the system cares about is the one against the corporation.
Corporations are the only people that don’t have to worry about eating. Corporations are the only people that don’t have hands for handcuffs. Corporations are the only people the law cares about.
Corporations own the media. Corporations own the red ones. Corporations own the blue ones. Corporations own the food. Corporations are eager to own everything the DNC will meet the RNC half way in privatizing.
We are here because infinite money now equates to infinite speech. We as individuals have ever less speech because we have ever less money. Unions are being crippled now and soon protesting itself will become a crime against the state.
It will be a crime to speak out. It will be a crime to be different. It will be a crime to work too slow or think too much.
When every notion of freedom becomes a crime, crime becomes our only freedom.
Ready Player 2 mother fuckers.
Fuck negotiating and debate. That’s what has allowed the rich to erode or steal everything we could have had. That’s what allows wimpy politicians to get walked all over as the bullies take over again and again.
That’s probably time zones. I’m in Europe, and I’ve noticed that if I post something that’s not in line with mainline American thinking, I’ll wake up to a bunch of downvotes. The same could be true for Oceania/Asia or Europe/africa, depending on where you are.
I am definitely one of those “to arms” types because I think talking is over. That’s all the oligarchs want, more talk. When a forum for discussion is introduced the controlling powers study it for monetization and misinformation purposes. When they figure out how to manipulate the fediverse and platforms like Bluesky it’ll be over. It’s important we keep ads off of them or they’ll dictate the discussion
Yes we’re missing two things
PieFed offers both, as well as most of the most heavily asked for features lacking from Lemmy (Categories of Communities, sign-up wizard asking for interests and subscribing to communities based on those answers, hashtags to facilitate cross-community discovery, etc.). Ironically it is the more foundational features (cross-posting, users tagging, comment previews, post searching) that it still lacks, but the point is that work is being done along the lines of what you said, even though I highly doubt that such will ever appear in “Lemmy” per se.
I wouldn’t use any of those other features. I just browse by top all 1/6/12 hr (which piefed lacks) and the theme isn’t great either.
How does it offer either of those things? I see an ‘attitude %’ on hover, and it says it has ‘strong moderation tools’. But I mean 100% community run. Subscribers have to vote on bans or something. And proof of personhood verification tests.
There are multiple themes to choose from. People that already know how to use Lemmy will be able to do more with Lemmy, for sure - PieFed is atm more of a concept of what is coming up, hence exciting! Especially for onboarding new users who don’t already know how to use Lemmy, i.e. from Reddit. I use PieFed as my daily driver, but I frequently have to fall back to Lemmy to accomplish certain types of tasks. So it’s not yet ready for the masses who don’t have an early adopter mindset. But it does offer tools to help with specifically those two things that you mentioned!:-)
Afaik, any proof of humanity depends on instance admin practices - same as Lemmy (and Mbin) too - but what PieFed offers uniquely along those lines is “reputation”. This can either be used directly by a mod (or admin) - e.g. for the first 2 weeks after signing up I was not allowed to DM anyone - or even by the individual end-user, as I’ll mention below with icons.
One really cool thing I see from PieFed already now is democratization of moderation: mods on Lemmy (and Reddit) have a binary choice to make between removal of content vs. allowing it, while PieFed significantly expands upon those options. One way is to auto-collapse, or even auto-hide, comments and posts below a certain vote threshold (different values provided for each of those, the first retaining the ability to always see the content just one single click away, the latter removing it from view altogether), thereby allowing people who want to avoid “controversial” content to do so more readily (related: there’s also a NSFL option, on top of a NSFW one, attempting to maximize such features available to people), in a manner that is independent of a community moderator, and with the ability to change the setting at any time.
PieFed similarly allows people to block all users from a specific instance, without having to defederate that requires admin support as Lemmy does (Lemmy has a feature that it calls instance blocking, but it is horribly misnamed bc it does not in fact block instances as all, and despite being promoted by people as an instance block is really just a community mute, leaving users free to spam your notifications for WEEKS and WEEKS after you no longer want to receive them - which is a real thing that has happened to me, TWICE, and basically caused me to leave Lemmy altogether as a result, although fortunately I found PieFed so didn’t have to go all the way back to Reddit to avoid such).
Another cool thing that PieFed offers is user icons: either placed by the user (whatever custom one you want, to help you recall whatever you feel that you need to - like “be careful, this guy is wordy!”), or automated ones placed by the system. Examples include new user (who may not know how things work, so be gentle), account which posts >20x more often than comments (hence may be an unregistered bot account), someone who receives >50x downvotes than upvotes (highly contentious person, very insensitive to whatever community they are in) - and to be clear these are overall, not specific to a community or post/comment, hence still works to brand-new content offered by each user. Whereas previously I spoke to removal or posts/comments based on such features, note here that this feature merely places a LABEL onto these categories of users - ultimately leaving it up to the end user, rather than a mod, to decide what to do about it. You can ignore these icons entirely, seek them out specifically, or whatever. But those varieties of “reputation” scores are made available to you in a numerical capacity.
Another cool aspect of labeling, this one requires an instance admin, is to place a commentary below every post from certain instances, like for Beehaw it says:
Note that link is to the exact statement from the instance admins themselves describing their policies in their own words. So this is far from “unfriendly”, and rather more welcoming to describe for instances where the “normal” expectations differ, what their particular desires are. Can you imagine if for Lemmy.ml it would say “any post criticizing Russia or China or North Korea is subject to removal” or some such!?
Speaking of, note how the community “side-bar” text appears below EVERY post - while some apps hide that away, PieFed places it front and center every single time, so that users have access to the info that they may need.
Also, PieFed is written in Python, rather than Rust, so its future development should proceed forward more quickly than Lemmy, allowing it to reach feature parity soon and even exceed Lemmy, as it already does in so many ways (though crucially: not all yet, so again I’m mostly describing the future here rather than the present, even though all of the above already exists).
oh my sweet summer child