Fuckkkkk.
Can Mozilla just fucking stop licking Google’s asshole for like 1 god damned week?
firefox lives and dies by google giving them money.
Why though, it could run as a stable project with little support outside volunteer and donations…which they ask for already.
It’s probably because non-profit execs are brainwashed by the promises of AI too. Also, Google has donated over $1 billion to Mozilla according to this website.
It’s their biggest source of revenue, AFAIK.
Last I knew, Google provided like 3/4 of their total revenue, so… Google unfortunately gets to call some shots. Only way to really fix that is to give them a substantial alternative income stream.
or let them slip into obsolescence.
And then your entire range of browser options becomes Chrome and a half dozen reskins of Chrome. I’m pretty sure a huge reason Google provides the funding is to avoid having Chrome branded a monopoly.
That would be worse.
Looks like right now it just blocks their AI features. Don’t threaten me with a good time Mozilla. Though I do worry about it spreading in the future
The token is used to access Firefox’s server-side AI tools, like Smart Window, for rate-limiting purposes, ensuring only unmodified, > Play-installed copies of Firefox on Google-certified devices use Mozilla’s1 compute infra.
it might mean that users on non-certified or rooted devices can’t access all AI features in Firefox for Android
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Although some users might want to use these AI features. I’m not sure why they shouldn’t be able to do so.
on one hand, fuck Mozilla’s enshitifiation.
on the other hand, this is a pro for custom ROM users. you get the AI automatically stripped out.
it’s almost like firefox wants everyone to migrate over to waterfox, librewolf, or mullvad-browser
Mullvad isn’t on Android. I checked when I started using the VPN. Literally irrelevant to this discussion.
Last I checked, LibreWolf also wasn’t on Android. I use IronFox on e/OS
(I bought a Fairphone 4 through Murena a few years back as my first foray into custom ROMs. Still debating what I will do for my next phone when the time finally comes. I do not need to be told about the concerns about Murena, that is already factored into my indecisiveness about my next phone.)
This is first time hearing about IronFox. Is it a distinct browser or just a repackaging of Firefox?
It’s another Firefox fork (well, based on a Mull fork, which is from Firefox), similar to LibreWolf. No AI, similar built-in security and privacy features. You can find the repository and install instructions here: https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
I’ve the feels that Firefox only exists to avoid monopoly on chrome.
Google funds its own antitrust competition
Guess it’s nice I run graphene and can just block that, man that sucks though. I’m tired of Mozilla being only slightly better than the competition
graphene is ending this September
Yes, those are all reasons why Google is a despicable company and how GrapheneOS is going to be more difficult to use with some apps (most likely banking or other more restrictive apps), will be subject to late official Android patching schedules, and how 3rd party apps will not be as usable on official devices, but that doesn’t mean GrapheneOS is just dead because Google is trying to kill all custom ROM support.
The Google Play services are already an issue for most ROMs and will be worsened after this, but many apps have releases within F-droid, Accrescent, or directly hosted via github. I don’t see how having that will change after this new requirement is in effect. A lot of GOS users already use free versions of apps anyways, that likely won’t be affected by this change at all as I understand it. Official app support from Google hosted APKs will be impacted. Most of these apps have workarounds like free open source alternatives or just using the website instead of an app. But some apps won’t and that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
From how I understand it, this is a splintering between free software and proprietary software but not a death knell.
Because every single third party app won’t work without the attestation keys, including the ones you listed. GrapheneOS won’t be able to push updates IF they won’t pay Google’s fees.
This doesn’t apply to GrapheneOS.
Is this supposed to be ignorance?
this is a completely different issue not in any way related to what you first linked to?
This doesn’t impact graphene at all
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GrapheneOS will have to start accepting using microg in place of the Play Services.
I doubt it, I see no reason they couldn’t continue using sandboxed services as they do now
microg won’t work without Google’s bootloader locks🔐
Google has never said they plan to remove bootloader unlocking as part of this change. If they do that will merely kill of pixels as a device choice. The graphene devs have been looking elsewhere for options for a while now, I’m not that worried
Ah, the Motorola venture…
These days, you see grapheneOS users whining every day. It’s so funny (Because they continue to swear to grapheneOS every day… ).
Graphene is a meme OS. Just use Lineage, it works on more devices.
I use my rooted, untrusted Chinese Xiaomi spy phone just like an untrusted device… Next time, I’ll look into open-source hardware and Linux as the operating system. I dont give a s… about custom roms which are still based on android because Android and closed Hardware (qualcomm etc (Whether it’s grapheneOS… Lineage, or whatever… No one can do anything with the firmware regarding modems, etc… No one can say what undocumented command sets are available, etc. )) is cancer
The only truly viable alternative that used Android was Project Ara… which is why Google bought up the patents and shut the project down. Everything else is just a smokescreen.
