Language works when we think the same, connecting the words to the same meanings and such. But that never actually happens 100%. It might be closer to 80%. (or if it’s a strange subject, 15%)

So this “conversation” that we’re having here is, to some degree, not actually happening.

But we pretend that it is.

So how much are we pretending? How much of the conversation is hallucinatory conversation?

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    A friend of mine, back when we got stoned a lot, had an idea that language, or words, are magic. Stringing together incantations to share thoughts is a neat way of thinking about it. Especially because we’re just jello trapped in a mecha made of bone and meat. It’s surprising there’s not more hallucinations to be honest.

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      10 hours ago

      I have had a similar thought. That the words are just a ritual for getting us into the same psychic space and the actual communication occurs via telepathy.

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        7 hours ago

        So glamour is a dream. And a grammar is, what, a special kind of dream? A useful, linguistically relevant dream. Where we assert/conceptualize connections between symbols and meanings.

        And a grimoire, that’s a whole chunk of the grammarly hallucinogen.

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          I don’t think I take it too seriously, but I like that thought experiment. I think the grimoire could contain spells and spellings to shape and reshape that dream. I also like the picture below.

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            We have 2 worlds.

            The primary world is made of sensations : sight, sound, thought, smell, emotion, etc.

            The secondary world is made of concepts : Stories, models, language, etc.

            That secondary world. Ya. Words, conversation, books, social media. That affects it. Creates it.