Just make it feet for fuck sake
Offside rule should be updated. This should be a goal. Applying 2020s technology to a rule created decades ago is ridiculous.
As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.
Why not just look at what can touch the ball without an infraction?
Head, shoulder, foot, etc, just no hands
That’s essentially what they do already. If you look at the photo The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee
yeah, I would prefer offside being like.
It’s based on the feet, and for VAR to overrule the onfield decision, the foot must be at least a set distance past the last foot of the defender to account for margin of error.
I don’t want to see any umming and ahhing about “oh, it’s milimeters off”, if it’s like… Less than 5cm, it’s onfield decision, especially if that distance could fall within the system’s margin for error.
Follow the way cricket does it for LBW reviews. The ball tracking must show over half the ball hitting/missing the stumps for it to be overturned, otherwise the onfield decision stands.
I feel that technology in sports work best when used to prevent clear mistakes in onfield judgements, not when used to split hairs on technicalities. Ruby has a great approach, onfield referee will say “Onfield decision is try, can you check for forward pass/grounding/whatever… Is that clear evidence to over-turn the try?”
I feel like football is too into trying to provide clear evidence to uphold the onfield decision, when that should be the default and it should be clear evidence to overturn otherwise you’re stuck forever in margin calls where no outcome can be clearly upheld.
it should be measured from the feet
This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I’d say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender’s foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.
I would ask you why you think track running isn’t measured by the runner’s feet then as well. Why does a runner cross a finish line when they cross with their head and shoulders?
Plus, generally it’s easier to just tell with the feet as they’re on the ground. No need for fancy graphs and close call lines.
I would prefer if any part of the attacker’s body is level with any part of the defenders body it is onside.
If you look closely The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee a playable part of his body
“It should have been a goal”. Why? He was offside. Just because was close? So where we draw the line between close enough and offside? Also, this is the semiautomatic system and only took less than 30s.
People are always complaining.
It wasn’t even close.
This!
With binary decisions like onside / offside you need to draw a line at some point.
“But it was so close. They should only call clear situations offside.”
This is clear! Head is partly offside. What do you want then to be ‘clearly offside’? 5 cm? Or 10 cm? Then we will have discussions once somebody is 11cm offside.
So when we have to draw a line let’s draw it where it fucking belongs – at 0 cm.
Then we will have discussions once somebody is 11cm offside.
No because he won’t be 1cm offside he will be 11cm offisde, if I’m doing 56mph on a speed trap which the limit is 50mph with a tolerance of 10%, i’m not 1mph above the limit, i’m 6.
To me I feel like feet being offside matters. I don’t think someone’s head being offside really makes a significant advantage
Are you implying you can only score using your feet? Because what if the person is offsides in the Box and they win a header for a goal but their feet were behind the defenders like in this photo. It’s still offside because you can score with any part of your body, aside from your hand and arm.
Agreed! Ignore the downvotes
Who said it should have been a goal? You’re just making up people to be upset at
Because of that, I’m eager to wait new offside rule to be applied asap
Wait wait wait. I thought any part of the DEFENDERS BODY is used to calculate the offside limit. The defenders arm is playing Vinicius onside no? Why is the offside line drawn from the defenders body when it should be the hand and no part of attackers scorable body should be offside no?
Can the defender defend with the arm?
That has never been the logic behind drawing the offside line. It has always been last body part of the defender period. And the last Scorable part of the attackers body is considered for offside. Thus giving a very slight advantage to the attackers.
Isn’t the defenders hand playing him on? IIRC at one point they used armpit. If it is armpit, Liverpool’s goal vs spurs are as indeed offside
What is this 3D modeling technology and why doesn’t the Premier League have it?
Technically off. Convinced this isn’t the spirit of the rule though. Unpopular opinion.
If my mom had consulted a better astrologer, I’d have chosen this as a career. No accountability, no consequences just apologies!
If that is deemed offside by the current rules then the rules are absolutely ridiculous.
The only thing that should matter is feet, if the feet are on it’s a goal. Would get rid of so much ambiguity.
it should be measured from the feet
good god
Level is onside.
I wish all the systems had a margin of error for this is too close so it’s level.
It’s not level though, his head is offside. Offside is for any part of the body that can play the ball being off.