Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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    I learned about a week ago why they are the way they are. See the soviet union was the closest in their mind the world has ever come to communism, so even though it’s fallen into fascist oligarchy, they still hold hope that the anticommunist putin is going to rise up and reestablish global communism once more. The only problem with that is that… well Russia doesn’t want communism. This is their playbook Yeah, that doesn’t look socialist, that looks like “we tried communism it didn’t work so lets do fascism this time” so they end up throwing their support towards red flavored fascism since it’s the best chance (in their minds) at getting global communism. When the alternative is an american nazi world order, or tiny countries with no power, you don’t really have much choice.

    But here’s something I want every single one of you to realize having read all of that: Even the most fascist redfash still would have killed the nazis. The same cannot be said for the average (in-power) liberal today. Anticommunism is always pro-fascism. Never let your critiques of the left turn into support for the right.

    EDIT: Case in point, the person i’m responding to is never going to see this post because they’re on a nazi bar instance that banned me.

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      Even the most fascist redfash still would have killed the nazis.

      They’d kill who they define as nazis. I find that tankies’ (especially Hexbear) definition of nazism doesn’t entirely correspond to mine or that of most other people. So this is not something to be super optimistic about.

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        It is a bare minimum that the current world order can’t even pass. They can’t even go a week without funding a mass ethnic genocide.

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          I really have no idea what people are trying to say or getting at in a lot of these comments, it feels like one of those art experiments where words don’t have meaning but are used to express emotion

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      Lol redfash killing nazis isn’t worth praise. Redfash kill each other the first chance they get. They are so paranoid when they come to power they purge anyone and everyone they can.

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        The users are a mixed bag but the mods/admins absolutely are in the business of running a nazi bar. They’re doing the classic strategy of passively protecting fascists while actively suppressing those calling out the fascists. They also ban people who are open communists.

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          Meanwhile, .ml keeps banning my accounts for just commenting on c/worldnews these days.

          I’m not a troll. You can go look at my contributions. I made some hexbears look like idiots and now they’ve got me on a leash.

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            I’ve learned the fun way not to bother with hexbear users. They’re only here to antagonize nazis so best not to get in the way of that.

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              I muted a couple dozen hexbear accounts when the whole instance was out seemingly trying to antagonize the entire fediverse.

              Turns out that got the vast majority of annoying trolls from there.

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                It feels shitty until you see them do it to an especially crap person, then you can’t help but sit back and distribute upvotes.

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      so even though it’s fallen into fascist oligarchy,

      You know any left wing project after being overthrown by the US would also end up a fascist oligarchy right? As was the case with the illegal and undemocratic dissolution of the Soviet Union brought about by the US.

      Even the most fascist redfash

      A mainstream Jewish holocaust scholar on equating fascism and communism and why it is bad

      https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

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        Yeah I was making a point that even the most “fascist” communist is still a zillion times less fascist than your average liberal. I love that you brought that article because it reinforces my point that anti-communism is always pro-fascism.