The American media loves saying that, but does it really have a right to exist? Does an apartheid colonizing regime have the right to exist in someone else’s land?

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    They can either give it up peacefully, or we can get into some Greenwood, into some Tulsa shit again, but flipped

    They who? Capitalists? Politicians? Every white person, going by the poorly defined US definition of white?

    By this point you might think I’m some lemmy-tier debate pervert, hampering endlessly for trolling. That is not the case. I’m trying to make sense of what the comrades over at the core envision their future struggles to be, because you know this is coming eventually over to my periphery.

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      Part of me genuinely does. The only reason I’m still humoring this conversation is because I recognize your username and have seen you about on this fed before.

      I see a future in which we have to fight against all whiteness. In which the current-day clarion calls of the politicians and capitalist elites toward the populace to rally 'round in protection of whiteness itself are heeded in full. Every time you hear a casual “slava ukraini” in the west, you are hearing the reaffirmation of solidarity with global whiteness. They’ve chosen their side and their praxis.

      “When Zelensky, Biden, Macron, talk about “common European values,” Africans and all non-European peoples understand its real meaning. It is a call for white Western solidarity in response to the global shift of power away from the West. It is essentially an appeal to support white supremacy through the maintenance of white material power that is based on the extractivist, parasitic relationship between the “West” and the rest of us.” – Ajamu Baraka

      They’ve started imprisoning our forefront activists again in attempts to shut us up, looking at what’s been done to the Uhuru 3, and the RICO charges filed against anti-Cop City protesters. They’ve already started, and the “White Lives Matter” movements are gaining steam hand-in-hand with the Banderites nourished by the Democrats. This will not end cleanly, and frankly, I’d say it lost the chance to end cleanly years ago.

      Just like it has for Palestine.

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      They who? Capitalists? Politicians? Every white person, going by the poorly defined US definition of white?

      I think we can look at the Cuban revolution for some answers. They started building their socialist project, and the opponents of that basically self selected. The ex-Cubans of Miami seem in general much whiter than people in Cuba.

      I don’t think there’s a reason to proactively define colonial lines or whatever (though I agree with @absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml ).

      I think a revolution in the U$ will have to be lead (or mostly driven by) colonized people, and decolonization will be a part of that.

      The people who benefitted from Cuban plantations, and wanted to keep those benefits, weren’t removed in a process separate from the revolution - they opposed the revolution (and the restructuring that came afterwards), and were dealt with because of that.

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        The people who benefitted from Cuban plantations, and wanted to keep those benefits, weren’t removed in a process separate from the revolution - they opposed the revolution (and the restructuring that came afterwards), and were dealt with because of that.

        See, now that is the logic I can actually follow. That makes sense. Thank you