I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).
I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).
What makes you say they don’t think it applies to the West? I don’t follow your logic there.
Because if you tell them China is just as capitalist as the West, they tell you it absolutely isn’t and is a communist country.
Ok but China is absolutely not as capitalist as the west, and that’s an insane thing to say.
I’d buy that line if China wasn’t integrating those large businesses (albeit slowly) into the public sector, something the west is not doing, but rather moving to deregulate more and more (Thanks Trump! /s)
And yet it’s still not a communist country. I get that you want it to be a communist country, but it isn’t.
You won’t see me argue that China is communist, it’s socialist as it stands now with the stated goal of becoming communist
Really? Socialist? Which workers control the means of production?
In industries that have been pulled into the public fold, sure. I’m calling them socialist In the same vein that you might still call most western countries capitalist despite having market regulations and some companies that are workers co-ops or use other socially owned frameworks. As long as they’re solidly on this trajectory it seems silly to me to label it otherwise at this point just as it would be silly to call the us socialist for having a few employee owned businesses
Which industries are controlled by the workers? Name them please.
I’ll not directly list any because that would be a waste of both of our times (notably some directly listed in the forthcoming article), but here’s a wikipedia article with some information about that. I’m picking wiki here because I have a feeling you won’t immediately discard it as pro-china propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_China
If the workers own the state and the state owns the corporations, what practical difference does it make? In a sense: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_socialism
The logic here is the state apparently operates at the will of the people (high approval ratings and high participation) and is working to bring “common prosperity” by gaining more control over the privately owned economy and bringing io state (public) ownership