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      they chose the smallest thing they could do

      They initially chose a thing that would have marginal impact on consumers’ behaviour, yes. Starting in October 2023, people will no longer be able to buy plastic cutlery, plates, bowls, trays, balloon sticks, and other items.

      Which items would you nominate for an immediate ban in addition?

      Regarding consumers v producers - they literally just stopped producers selling this stuff. What do you mean?

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          Stopping a producer selling it in a country is putting the onus on the producer.

          I don’t think the narrative of producer v consumer is particularly helpful. Any regulation that hits the producer will also hit the consumer.

          I’d be all for a ban on plastic bottles, but you need proper glass bottle deposit schemes in place first

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              Whether a producer is prohibited from producing or selling has zero affect on the UK consumer. I agree that a ban on production would be good, but in the vast majority of cases these are overseas producers, so that can’t be legislated for.

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                  I very much doubt that there are any products being imported - because they can’t be sold - so no need to regulate that.

                  The only thing I can see where a ban on production would help with is if the UK was home to a big manufacturer-exporter of straws etc. But that doesn’t seem very likely.

                  Appreciate thr discussion and happy to have my position changed if I’m on the wrong track

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          How much less talking about the consumers responsible is appropriate? Or do you think people shouldn’t talk about it at all?

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      why do you think the producers are producing these things? Because consumer demand. If we stopped purchasing these things, they wouldn’t produce them. They only produce them because that’s where the money is.