Not exclusively. Nicotine inhalation traditionally has been in combination with the rest of the chemicals and tar in cigarettes.
Personally… yes? I know some vapers who have been around in the industry for almost 20 years. I’ve heard reports around x-rays of older vapers coming out nearly the same as a nonsmoker.
The real enemy of nicotine inhalation seems to have more to do with what carries it rather than the nicotine itself.
There are absolutely cardiovascular impacts of chronic nicotine use that are independent of any lung issues you’d have from inhalation. That would be true of any drug, and we’re well acquainted with the dangers of PAD and increased heart attack and strokes from nicotine use. It’s a vasoconstrictor so that makes sense.
Oh, I actually thought I deleted this comment since I realized I didn’t really know what I was talking about. But since it’s here, and you took the time to read it; The question that went through my mind is "okay, I know that there’s more to vaping/smoking than just nicotine, but what about chewing tabbaco? Isn’t that nicotine that harms you without the additives from smoking/vaping?
I started with that article, but got lazy and didn’t want to look into it further. Sorry for the confusion.
Chewing tobacco would also contain the carcinogens of tobacco resting in your mouth, causing cancer generally wherever it sits. The tobacco is still the delivery system for the nicotine. In the case of some snus, some are tobacco free, and are simply nicotine pouches that have soaked flavor and nicotine into them. Nicotine, like caffeine, vanillin, THC, can be extracted into its pure form from tobacco, removed from tobacco entirely and delivered in safer methods. This is the mindset behind vaping.
I mean this is specifically about disposable vapes, which never should have become a thing. They’re possibly the most wasteful disposable item we’ve ever come up with.
Not much considering they’ve basically dipped toes into vaping rather than entire legs.
Most of the vaping industry is independent companies removed from the likes of the usual tobacco figureheads and single-use Vuse and Juul vapes(their brands) were fizzled out years ago.
PM and RJR do have their noses invested in some of those smaller companies, even Altria owned a chunk of Avail Vapor before they went to shit in the late 2010’s.
but their investors tend to be more cautious than the “black market” or smaller vape industry of juice bottles, single-use vapes and box mods, and they don’t touch Delta 8/10 vapes with a 39.5’ pole.
Went from “vaping is 95% less harmful than smoking” to “ban it, think of the children” in only 5 years…
How much did the reversal cost Phillip Morris and RJR, do you suppose?
It does seem like loads of kids vape these days, and rather openly as well.
Disposable vapes should be banned because of the waste, and they should do the blank packaging approach for vapes/vape juice.
Just because it’s better than smoking doesn’t mean it’s good, and nobody really knows the long term health effects.
@li10 @aelwero (do we not have long term data on use of nicotine by inhalation? )
Not exclusively. Nicotine inhalation traditionally has been in combination with the rest of the chemicals and tar in cigarettes.
Personally… yes? I know some vapers who have been around in the industry for almost 20 years. I’ve heard reports around x-rays of older vapers coming out nearly the same as a nonsmoker.
The real enemy of nicotine inhalation seems to have more to do with what carries it rather than the nicotine itself.
There are absolutely cardiovascular impacts of chronic nicotine use that are independent of any lung issues you’d have from inhalation. That would be true of any drug, and we’re well acquainted with the dangers of PAD and increased heart attack and strokes from nicotine use. It’s a vasoconstrictor so that makes sense.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/does-dip-cause-cancer-5089126
That was a fun read. How does it pertain to inhalation of nicotine via propelyne glycol and vegetable glycerin?
Oh, I actually thought I deleted this comment since I realized I didn’t really know what I was talking about. But since it’s here, and you took the time to read it; The question that went through my mind is "okay, I know that there’s more to vaping/smoking than just nicotine, but what about chewing tabbaco? Isn’t that nicotine that harms you without the additives from smoking/vaping?
I started with that article, but got lazy and didn’t want to look into it further. Sorry for the confusion.
Chewing tobacco would also contain the carcinogens of tobacco resting in your mouth, causing cancer generally wherever it sits. The tobacco is still the delivery system for the nicotine. In the case of some snus, some are tobacco free, and are simply nicotine pouches that have soaked flavor and nicotine into them. Nicotine, like caffeine, vanillin, THC, can be extracted into its pure form from tobacco, removed from tobacco entirely and delivered in safer methods. This is the mindset behind vaping.
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I mean this is specifically about disposable vapes, which never should have become a thing. They’re possibly the most wasteful disposable item we’ve ever come up with.
Not much considering they’ve basically dipped toes into vaping rather than entire legs.
Most of the vaping industry is independent companies removed from the likes of the usual tobacco figureheads and single-use Vuse and Juul vapes(their brands) were fizzled out years ago.
PM and RJR do have their noses invested in some of those smaller companies, even Altria owned a chunk of Avail Vapor before they went to shit in the late 2010’s.
but their investors tend to be more cautious than the “black market” or smaller vape industry of juice bottles, single-use vapes and box mods, and they don’t touch Delta 8/10 vapes with a 39.5’ pole.
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They talked about vaping as a concept. Like an RTA tank attached to a box mod. These single use vapes ruined the good rep of ecigs