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Can Europe have… A civil war? Doesn’t civil war have to be within a single country? Doesn’t that just make it… War?
Has anyone here considered that he simply may be funding subversive groups in a few countries?
No no, civil as in “dear sir/madam, I hope this declaration of war finds you well. our nation thinks that your nation is not as worthy of being a nation as our nation’s worthiness, and henceforth we will be dispatching our people to pillage your land, which will become our land in quite short order. please, do not resist. fondest regards, your attacker”
The most charitable interpretation that I can come up with is that he’s trying to express the idea that the nations of Europe are each headed for individual but separate civil wars. I disagree with this idea, but that’s the only way I can make sense of it
Lmao yeah that would also be a pretty tough narrative to sell.
random crazy mentally handicapped junkie says dumb shit
“DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM?!?”
I’m tired of the dumbs and the ones who profit from them.
Is he heil hiltering us
Yep, Elon somewhat infamously decided to do a Hitler salute. Twice!
You think he’s hitlering? Wrong! He just dodged an assassin’s bullet and disguised it with a salute!
No, I don’t agree with him. He only says shit like this to get attention, because he’s desperate for it. He made Twitter a cesspool where only those posts agreeing with him are pushed to the fore, and his own posts the highest, whether you want to see them or not.
I mean, he very obviously did it to influence the world.
It takes away a platform of discussion that wasn’t in his control, and instantly makes a giant platform under his control.
It’s a huge fucking deal that he did that, too. Like. Twitter was and is still the biggest, public discourse platform in the world. It went from being… Not great… to straight up a Nazi owned and operated platform, now constantly mined by AI, and used as a playground for all the psyops he can think of.
Like imagine an RTS and you’re the player, and every single npc from every faction converses through a single public nexus that everybody else can simultaneously see and also talk about in other places. And you create an algorithm to promote ways of thinking and block and ban any seeds of dissent, or use public shaming to your heart’s delight.
The entire world is being steered right now on literally all fronts by terrible people and organizations. Values themselves are changing. The very things that make us unique are slowly being corroded. Change happens quick, but will take generations to fully win. A decade becomes three, and soon, it’s all some adults will have ever known.
First of all, proper display of Musk’s intellect to say division between separate, sovereign nations will lead to a “civil war.”
But it’s all projection.
When he says, “You’re a racist.” he’s saying, “I’m a racist.”
When he’s saying, “You’re a pedophile.” he’s saying, “I’m a pedophile.”
When he says, “Your union is going to be at war with itself.” he’s saying, “This union is going to be at war with itself.”
All Republicans are this way. It’s not a political party thing, either, it’s a way of thinking… kind of how everything that science can’t currently explain is god’s territory. People that come from a faith based background tend to have weird mental blocks and treat affronts to those blocks as offensive taboo, and so lash out with projection to save their own internal, righteous ego. You see playground bullies do it, same exact human behavior.
When you attach a shit ton of your worldview and decisions and life and self to arbitrary falsehoods and aren’t used to those pillars being questioned and moving them yourself, you tend to defend them to the fucking death
It’s no wonder religious people are always so AH I’M A VICTIM! When your reality differs so foundationally from other peoples’, you’re probably constantly at odds with everybody around you.
The world needs to move towards socialism to respond to this moment, or fall into the grips of fascism.
How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?
Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop.
Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining.
The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed.
So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups.
To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked.
That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.
But can't capitalism can be reformed?
While, of course, some laws to reform capitalism can be passed, and would definitely alleviate the worst harm caused, over the long term, capitalism cannot be reformed.
Any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism.
The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century America.
But the Soviet Union was really oppressive!
Yeah, the soviet union had a lot of problems, Stalin was a psycho. Let’s not do that, but we can do socialism using a bottom-up, direct democratic, consensus based decision making approach, rather than a top-down, centralized state. We can learn from the mistakes of the past.
I’d encourage you to check out an anarchist FAQ to learn more - If you haven’t heard much about anarchism before, you probably have some misconceptions about it, so I encourage you to watch the Q&Anarchy video series by Thought Slime or have a look through an Anarchist FAQ, because it’s almost definitely nothing like what you think.
I personally believe that it’s the most coherent philosophy which adequately explains and addresses all of the problems which plague our society, and which holds the most promise for a path out of the inevitable cycle of the continuous rise and fall of fascism that capitalism makes inevitable.
Does he think Europe is one country?
lolyes. He is remarkably ignorant. Much like a lot of Americans.
Oh come on. Stop punching down.
First star on the right and on til morning!
You sure Europeans can have anything that’s civil?
