Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.

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    grue, I dont vote for genociders, full stop. Harris was going to continue Bidens support of zionism, thats just a fact. If we must literally feed the bodies of innocents and children into the gears of our “democracy” or it explodes, I say let it explode ASAP, because you’ll just be voting for more genocide next election too, wont you.

    Have the zionists relinquished their hold on the democratic party? No. Have the dem leaders kicked them out? No.

    Maybe if you took the time to take a stand on that too our leaders would see they cant win by taking that position. Your “harm minimization” is short term thinking and just delays the inevitable. Sooner or later this has to happen, so lets do it now instead of after we have even more blood on our hands. You’re just spending other people lives to stall for time.

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      grue, I dont vote for genociders, full stop.

      The blood is on your hands anyway, because you had the chance to reduce harm and refused. In fact, it has accelerated and spread because of the actions of people like you.

      I knew this would happen. I warned people like you that this would happen. And the last year has proven me correct.

      You can deny it all you want, but that doesn’t change reality.

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        Don’t use the words game theory and harm reduction. You clearly don’t know anything about either.

        You are literally ignoring all of game theory based around games with repeated plays. Why? Because it shows the opposite strategy then what you are promoting works better.

        When people point out that your vaunted game theory proves you wrong, that is when the phrase harm reduction comes out so you don’t have to argue against people correctly pointing out that your strategy fails in the long term.

        It’s not clever, nor is it subtle.

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          How was their game theory proven wrong? Voting third party is part of the original calculation. Because of the first past the post system in the US, voting third party in a general election is throwing away your vote. In 2024, it was a spoiler for the Democrats. So it helped Trump. That’s game theory.

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            The aspect of game theory people who espouse it as their rational for voting blue no matter who only applies to games that occur only once.

            What strategy wins in the long term over multiple plays is exactly opposite what they espouse and is closer, though not entirely, the strategy espoused by the people they argue against.

            We have elections on a repeated basis.