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  • marksills@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    this is whiny and not really a novel opinion but I find a lot of the online (and I guess on-air) discourse about the league and about clubs so tiring/annoying. I was listening to arsecast and someone asked a question something like “did you see the flak eddie was getting for not smiling when he got his cap, are we too emotional or not emotional enough?”. I found two things about this quite annoying. First is the obvious, I was unfortunate enough to see some of that eddie discussion and it is weird that people were talking about that and making it a thing. But the second annoying thing is the question and being so caught up in who’s saying what and having to feel slighted. Leaving aside that Nevile’s emotional comments (while moronic) were talking about us in game and people were talking about eddie off the pitch, who cares? Rival fans aren’t going to be consistent with their criticism, and while the constant need to slight other teams is part of whats so annoying about online discourse, taking offense and trying to catch them in backwards logic is pointless and (like me) a bit whiny.

    The other super annoying thing is twitter, my algo suggests a lot of football stuff because of some of the people I follow and the content I click on, but it seems the content is either one of two things: 1st is the most annoying where its like a chelsea fan saying like "ibr i just deeped that mudyrk is better than ‘starboy’ " Of course they’re engagement farming but this was the case even before the monetization (if thats even still going on).

    The 2nd type of account is some account tweeting like “click for a thread on the 2nd phase build up against a mid block that de zerbi deployed in the middle 30 minutes against dynamo zagreb.” Now I don’t really have a problem with these accounts (I probly get them because I follow Billy), but they seem to be essentially the only football related accounts I see that aren’t complete nonsense, and tbh its kinda way over detailed and not that enjoyable. Not much of a middle ground of people talking sensibly but not 30 tweet threads about pressing tactics.

    I guess there’s a 3rd group that is essentially the nonewthing group (I have learned to enjoy his tweets, he’s half unintentionally funny) that think they’re geniuses because they use the newest terms that they’ve come up with to make basic concepts seem more complex, but they’re not much better than the 1st group.

    Idk this is probably just as whiny and annoying as some of those accounts but I just find a lot of the online discourse around the sport quite annoying, moreso than other sports that I follow. Perhaps its just because I know less people irl that follow the sport so I miss out on more normal discussion, but even the discussion of irl people seems more tribal.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, I wouldn’t really know about any of the narratives around our players or the club if not for people complaining about it.

      I will say, its likely that it was a talking point in a podcast because its a break week and they needed something to fill a minute or so.

      • marksills@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        yea they didn’t really linger on it (james hadnt even seen those strange posts) so i wasn’t so much annoyed at them and not even individually annoyed at the person that asked the question, its just that that sort of dialogue is so common that I find tiring. It just doesn’t seem so negative in other sports. And I do find myself giving into some of that negative thinking too, like I can much easier watch teams I don’t like do well in other sports, or admit that a player I don’t like it was quite good moreso than I can with football, and I think I’m usually a pretty objective person. I wonder if another factor is the lack of playoffs (I’m American so all of the other sports I watch have that), so every game is so meaningful, which causes people to be rooting so hard against rivals, whereas other sports, you can watch a regular season game of a rival that doesnt really matter to your team as much, so you can be a little more objective.

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          1 year ago

          Perhaps, i do think there is a level to it where each game feels like the most important one in the EPL. And for us it is because to beat or even challenge City for the title you need to be at or near perfection. We haven’t lost a match, we’ve dropped 4 total points, we’re tied for first points, and have done this with limited use of jesus, partey, martinelli. Yet people are still upset and find things to yell about online.

          Its exhausting.

          Let alone the obsession with other clubs, as you mention. Spurs aren’t allowed to be good because they’re spurs, but they are indeed objectively better as a team and more fun to watch now than they were a year ago. Does it mean that they will finish top 2? no. Does it mean I want them to do well? absolutely not. but I like to watch fun attractive football. The entire activity is better when its enjoyable to watch.

  • okcomput3r@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I can see Arteta and Edu going for an attacking fullback in the summer to add another possibility to the attack.

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      1 year ago

      Similar pattern to the second goal we conceded against Lens. He fails to track runners in the box.

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    1 year ago

    Just remembered that even with Partey, Xhaka, and Odegaard, we still lost the midfield at Anfield last season.

    • Mein_Bergkamp@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Liverpool, like Man U, always get it together when we turn up.

      Even when they’re being comparatively shit they will play like the most perfect version of themselves for Arsenal because we’ve got a lot of history there.

    • depressingmirror2@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Well Partey, xhaka and Odegaard is kind of a one man midfield. That’s the idea of having Declan Rice, you stick him next to a Partey or Jorginho and then suddenly you have a midfield.

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    1 year ago

    Clearly not used to having rice yet. Saw the starting XI and thought ‘fuck watching that’ when there was no saka. Praying dec stays safe

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    1 year ago

    Are United ready for the conversation that last year Rashford going super saiyan mode is what carried them and Ten Hag isnt a good manager whatsoever?

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    1 year ago

    Phillips should be nowhere near this squad with how much game time he’s getting. He looks way off the pace.

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    1 year ago

    Hello everyone, I got a ticket for Arsenal - Wolves match in December, but after I started looking for flights, I’ve noticed that there seems to be a bug issue in London right now, Was wondering if anyone has any idea how that’s gonna go, cause I’d rather not go if the issue persists.

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    1 year ago

    Rice has been unreal on the ball so far. That penalty is all because of him passing risky between the lines.

    Could have done better when intercepting the ball on the goal Italy scored but so many mistakes happened after that by England before the goal went into the net.

  • MyTeaIsMighty@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Losing to a washed Italy team with Scamacca leading the line at home. I know it’s easy to blame Southgate… So I will.