The March 14 directive, signed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, uses an obscure 18th-century law — the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 — to give law enforcement nationwide the power to bypass basic constitutional protections.
According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval. Instead, immigration officers can sign their own administrative warrants. The bar for action is low — a “reasonable belief” that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang is enough.
Well, constitutionally, they can’t for whatever that’s worth now.
That bold faced liar can go right to hell.
Looking forward to this being challenged in a state with Stand Your Ground laws where warrantless trespassing is legally the same as any other trespassing.
I’m personally opposed to lethal force being used to protect property in general, but there are places where that is essentially legal due to Stand Your Ground laws.
Thus far these bozos have demonstrated a pattern of showing up without uniforms, with masks on, refusing to identify themselves, show badges, or produce warrants.
This is needless to say an incredibly stupid thing for them to do, especially if they plan to also go around kicking in people’s doors. I personally know an old man who got off the hook for shooting a state cop in my area who tried the same. I think the only hope the Dummkstaffel here has of making a charge stick against a homeowner who blows one of them away will be to somehow make it Federal, because otherwise I think the state courts – especially in blue areas – are not going to treat any warrantless door-kicking by nonuniformed armed men who refuse to identify themselves very kindly.
Edit to add: You’re also not protecting your “property” in such a case, you are protecting your person, which is a very different thing both legally and ethically. If the alternative is that you’re going to be whisked away without due process to a death camp in El Salvador, your only rational course of action is to stand and fight – especially in your own home.
I think the only hope the Dummkstaffel here has of making a charge stick against a homeowner who blows one of them away will be to somehow make it Federal
It would be federal, because it would be a federal agent getting shot. Any murder of a federal officer–including postal carriers–is a federal crime, in addition to being a state crime. OTOH, remember that a large number of federal judges are not friendly to Herr Fuhrer.
Yes, and also aren’t hordes of these dipshits local cops that Trump is aiming to “deputize” to assist ICE? Those guys are not Federal agents no matter how hard they wish.
Your opposed to it, but now you also see the sole reason the 2nd exists. If ever the government does something like warrantless trespassing, it’s our civic duty to use our 2nd amendment rights to remind them we oppose tyranny. That said, never thought this would happen in our lifetimes. Worlds a changing.
There are very few people who would survive this tactic though.
Still seems like a stupid plan—2nd amendment or not (which is really not what the 2nd was about before courts made it anyway). At best you take one with you on the way out, if you’re ready when they break in. At this point I’d still rather be detained than dead.
If everyone they illegally targeted managed to take one this problem would be quickly resolved
I’ve never imagined I’d survive a fascist regime.
^ This, 100%
Some of us don’t have the luxury to keep our heads down and blend in when fascists want to target those who are “different.” That’s why I am outspoken about it - I can’t hide who I am, and even if I could, I’d refuse to live a lie.
I don’t have kids, I don’t have pets, the only person depending on my survival is me. If fascists come to take me, I’d rather go down and take them with me than go into the black hole (an entity from which nothing escapes) of a foreign prison/death camp.
To assume one will merely be “detained” and given due process in the United States is, sadly, a naïve take in 2025.
Doesn’t seem like it really matters if the courts rule against it. The judicial branch has no enforcement mechanism, and no one seems to be willing to escalate.
Yes they do. The US Marshall service is considered the judicial armed police force. Though at the moment they enforce immigration as one of their functions they would be the ones to arrest federal cops for doing unconstitutional (illegal) shit in theory.
Unfortunately wrong. The marshals work for Pam Bondi at the DOJ. Still under the control of the executive.
Republicans would have turned in Anne Frank. This is truly some gestapo shit.
Republicans would be the ones looking for Anne Frank.
The hypotheticals have run out of runway. They’re here.
Where are the 2A advocates when you need them.
Right fucking here. Notice they’re picking on people highly unlikely to fight back? Come for my brown, legal-migrant wife, see what happens.
You’re going to get into a firefight with federal cops with your wife around? Genuinely asking what the “find out” part is
If they show up. You’re all dead regardless.
What about all the people who it’s happened to that didn’t die? I’m not saying it’s good and to roll over, but pretending like a shootout somehow creates a better outcome is genuinely not based in reality… yet
What’s the alternative? Stay silent and let her disappear to the El Salvador death camp? Take a few of them with you.
Im willing to bet the odds she’ll die at the death camp are lower than in a close quarters gunfight with a bunch of dumbfucks firing away.
Feel free to go out in an unnecessary blaze of glory though. Very macho 👌
I’d do my best to make sure I could see my wife again
Have fun not seeing her no matter your best then.
Yes, I’m prepared to die. And that isn’t a knee-jerk macho reaction. I’ve put a great deal of thought into this.
Look, it’s easy for me to say, a middle-aged man who has lived life. Been a few times where I thought, “Shit, this may be it. Can’t say I have many regrets and this day is as fine as another other.” I understand that younger folks want to play out the odds, I would have felt the same in my 20s or 30s, maybe into my 40s.
But at some point you have to draw a moral line in the sand. Literally say, “I’ll die before I allow this.” I will not allow unidentified, warrantless, masked men into my home to kidnap my (legal alien) wife. I see no benefit in going quietly. After all, American cops have taught us by example, if they kick the door in, they are there to kill you. It’s the orge’s choice, die fast or slow. Begging and pleading only gets you killed slower.
So… where is that outrage from preppers and gun enthusaists of the government barging into their homes?
Can you image if Biden, Obama, or even Bush did this?
There would literally be a massive armed mob outside the White House.
Turns out guns are useless in the face of propaganda, I guess.
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In California remember you have Castle Doctrine. Protecting yourself, your home, and property from unwarranted unannounced invasions from ANYONE allows you to use deadly force if available
Wait. CA allows the Castle Doctrine?
A quick search shows it does. I’ll be damned.
I’ll be damned as well.
Worth noting for any Californians that it u-turns if the person stops being a threat. If you threaten and they run away, you’re now in the wrong if you shoot.
Fun Fact: In Indiana, you can legally convert ICE agents into a fine red mist if they try this.
They have no legal protections while breaking the law.
Problem is… It then gets reduced to you shooting at people, and people shooting at you. That’s seems like lose lose situation.
I mean, if you’re going to die anyway, might as well take some assholes with you.
A “memo”. A fucking memo. No, this is a violation of the Constitution. Fuck your memo.
Shoot all trespassers.
weird question, do i have to be black to join the black panthers
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Enter my home without a warrant or identifying yourself, and your gonna leave in a casket.
I’ve also explained to my family that we do not open the door to anyone, especially people who claim to be cops. Way too easy to claim it, then force their way in while your waiting for them to prove who they are.
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I said we would have late night, door to door searches by year’s end,
They’re running early
Listen, your family migrated here like a 100 years ago from Europe… so we’ll just assume you’re Tren de Aragua. What? No, this has nothing to do with you being an intellectual or a lefty. Now get in the concentration ca-I mean; the extralegal detention centre… yes, that’s it.
This is a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, and they are counting on the Supreme Court to back then, which they won’t. Then they’ll just ignore the Supreme Court, and do it anyway.
Which is why everyone needs to be arming themselves and open-carrying at protests moving forward.
Agree. They need to be extremely afraid of us. Politicians are greedy cowards, and they only respond to money and fear. We don’t have money to bribe them like the Sociopathic Oligarchs, so we have to make their fear of us overwhelm their greed.
Reminder that many states have “STAND YOUR GROUND” laws that include protecting you in the event you shoot someone claiming to be a federal agent who doesn’t produce badges or a warrant.
