The New York lawmaker responded to Fetterman's dismissal of her call on Monday for an arms embargo on Israel, which has received billions of dollars worth of weapons and other military aid since the Hamas-led October 7 attack.
we call this ‘enabling’ and its bad. if my friend goes and murders someone in cold blood I don’t go ‘oh well they’re my friend’ I fucking turn them in so they can get the help they clearly need.
Unfortunately, elections are a popularity contest, not a morality test. It doesn’t matter what’s right, it matters what enough voters in the right states approve of.
She can’t get those easy votes without losing votes from
moderate Israel-supporters.
No one is asking her to not protect israel.
This reflects her stated position, but here you are saying it’s not good enough.
Well then your actions are irrational because they do not help accomplish your goal, despite your fantasies to the contrary.
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
It must be a strange sensation seeing it from the other side. Your entire strategy is based on assumptions about how others will act. The difference is that your assumptions are based on pure unsupported fantasy, while mine are based on historical evidence.
Eh, she needs enough votes. She doesn’t need yours specifically. If she can’t get yours, she’ll shill to moderates to get theirs, because strategically that’s much smarter than alienating a large, reliable bloc in order to gain a portion of the much smaller, much less reliable bloc you represent.
you actually don’t know that. and neither does she. shes just scared as are you.
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
they weren’t willing to do shit a year ago because they didn’t need the votes. now is the time to give them permission.
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
not my fault harris is floundering for votes. I can’t help that shes committed to a platform that has historically low approval and is unwilling to commit to anything not even a bar as low as ‘not commiting genocide’ shrug.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
if she had a solid platform she wouldn’t be floundering.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
I can’t do anything about that except clearly broadcast my expectations to the democratic party. which i’m doing daily. you are of course free to do nothing. but harris needs votes to win and I’m letting her know how to get mine. balls in her court.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
Sure, hold your nose, and when Trump wins you can snuggle say you didn’t directly vote for him, it’s not your fault LGBT people are getting carted off to camps, it’s not your fault women are legally considered breeding stock, it’s not your fault Palestine is a sheet of glass, it’s not your fault we pulled aid from Ukraine and sent it to Israel. Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.
Unfortunately, elections are a popularity contest, not a morality test. It doesn’t matter what’s right, it matters what enough voters in the right states approve of.
agreed, and shes losing; all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.
The difference is that your assumptions are based on pure unsupported fantasy, while mine are based on historical evidence.
the past does not predict the future. but it rhymes. and the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose. looks in harris’ direction
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
I’ve only made a single claim on how others will act and it was a group that literally said ‘stop the arm shipments to gaza’ and there are 100k of them in an important swing state.
Sure, hold your nose, and when Trump wins you can snuggle say you didn’t directly vote for him, it’s not your fault LGBT people are getting carted off to camps, it’s not your fault women are legally considered breeding stock, it’s not your fault Palestine is a sheet of glass, it’s not your fault we pulled aid from Ukraine and sent it to Israel. Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.
correct. you see its a popularity contest, and apparently shes not winning and doesn’t know how to. a shame really. if only the DNC ran a real primary when faced with a historically disliked administration. well you lose some, you win some. but it is a shame and its a shame you wouldn’t put in the effort for all those groups you’re trying to place on my plate. my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn’t check a single box on my list. I hope she pulls it off but for some reason it seems like she wont.
Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.
its funny you think your giant list of minority groups who actually have rights and trump wont be able to take them away by himself is more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine. its why he lost support (among a plethora of other issues, like union busting) and just slapping harris’ name on the top of the ticket won’t change that outcome. sorry but the deaths are the greater evil. I will not choose between the minority groups. you can compromise if you wish I won’t.
all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.
Are you doing the legwork of telling her directly?
the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose.
You must be looking at a different past than the rest of us.
I’ve only made a single claim on how others will act
Your entire premise is that your choice will cause a candidate to alter their behavior
my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn’t check a single box on my list.
I’d wager she checks quite a lot of them, when considering the alternative. Status quo is not ideal, but it is better than marked backsliding, which is what you’re gambling.
trump wont be able to take them away by himself
Uh, yeah. The entire problem is that there is a broadly successful campaign to install federalist cronies across as many seats as possible. Supreme Court, lower courts, EPA, USPS, DoE, everything. They published it. He’s not by himself.
more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine.
Which is different than the entire history of the state of Israel how? Your alternatives are an unbroken trend of spineless opposition, and enthusiastic support. I do not consider enthusiastic support to be an acceptable risk in my electoral stratagems.
sorry but the deaths are the greater evil.
The deaths will not decrease under the alternative evil, in fact they will most certainly increase under the other evil. That would by embarrassingly simple logic make that alternative the greater evil, and the evil in question the lesser evil. Who was it that just said Biden was being too tough on Bibi?
Unfortunately, elections are a popularity contest, not a morality test. It doesn’t matter what’s right, it matters what enough voters in the right states approve of.
This reflects her stated position, but here you are saying it’s not good enough.
It must be a strange sensation seeing it from the other side. Your entire strategy is based on assumptions about how others will act. The difference is that your assumptions are based on pure unsupported fantasy, while mine are based on historical evidence.
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.
Sure, hold your nose, and when Trump wins you can snuggle say you didn’t directly vote for him, it’s not your fault LGBT people are getting carted off to camps, it’s not your fault women are legally considered breeding stock, it’s not your fault Palestine is a sheet of glass, it’s not your fault we pulled aid from Ukraine and sent it to Israel. Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.
agreed, and shes losing; all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.
the past does not predict the future. but it rhymes. and the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose. looks in harris’ direction
I’ve only made a single claim on how others will act and it was a group that literally said ‘stop the arm shipments to gaza’ and there are 100k of them in an important swing state.
correct. you see its a popularity contest, and apparently shes not winning and doesn’t know how to. a shame really. if only the DNC ran a real primary when faced with a historically disliked administration. well you lose some, you win some. but it is a shame and its a shame you wouldn’t put in the effort for all those groups you’re trying to place on my plate. my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn’t check a single box on my list. I hope she pulls it off but for some reason it seems like she wont.
its funny you think your giant list of minority groups who actually have rights and trump wont be able to take them away by himself is more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine. its why he lost support (among a plethora of other issues, like union busting) and just slapping harris’ name on the top of the ticket won’t change that outcome. sorry but the deaths are the greater evil. I will not choose between the minority groups. you can compromise if you wish I won’t.
Are you doing the legwork of telling her directly?
You must be looking at a different past than the rest of us.
Your entire premise is that your choice will cause a candidate to alter their behavior
I’d wager she checks quite a lot of them, when considering the alternative. Status quo is not ideal, but it is better than marked backsliding, which is what you’re gambling.
Uh, yeah. The entire problem is that there is a broadly successful campaign to install federalist cronies across as many seats as possible. Supreme Court, lower courts, EPA, USPS, DoE, everything. They published it. He’s not by himself.
Which is different than the entire history of the state of Israel how? Your alternatives are an unbroken trend of spineless opposition, and enthusiastic support. I do not consider enthusiastic support to be an acceptable risk in my electoral stratagems.
The deaths will not decrease under the alternative evil, in fact they will most certainly increase under the other evil. That would by embarrassingly simple logic make that alternative the greater evil, and the evil in question the lesser evil. Who was it that just said Biden was being too tough on Bibi?