I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.

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    Idk why we’ve reached the point where anyone saying they’re anything but an atheist has to specify that they aren’t a bigot

    Most “spiritual” people adhere to one of the big organized religions, and those kinda suck in general and are rarely content to leave nonbelievers in peace.

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        I think some people can be overly smug about their lack of belief, but I don’t think that means it’s akin to a religion

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          Realism isn’t about lack of belief. Solipsism is about lack of belief. Realism is about an unshakeable faith in the existence of an external world beyond the senses. Soulism is about making the best of the world within one’s senses. Out of the three main approaches to reality, the realists have the most belief, and are most easily cut down by Occam’s razor. That a world beyond our senses exists is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. It is nothing to base one’s life around. It is better to work to improve the malleable world within our senses, than to strive for Plato’s world of forms.

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          We don’t live in a society that persecutes people for not breathing, but we do live in a society that persecutes people for not believing in reality. Genocides have been committed in the name of reality.

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              Yep. Aboriginal folks don’t tend to teach their kids the white idea of reality. I’ve heard from some Indigenous people that their culture (keep in mind, there are many Aboriginal cultures) doesn’t believe in reality at all.

              So the white people took Aboriginal kids away from their families and put them in white institutions and with white parents. Took away their language, their culture, their land, and gave them white patriarchal realism instead. And there was a hell of a lot of abuse. Beatings and rape. They called it “civilising” the children.

              It was an attempt to exterminate Aboriginal cultures. I call that genocide.

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                idea of reality

                Let me stop you right there bud. Reality is or isn’t. There is no idea about it.

                What you’re talking about is racism.

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                  No, reality is a social construct and it’s harmful to people who fall outside of reality as the white cisheteropatriarchy defines it. At various times that category has included trans people, religious minorities, otherkin, gay people, neurodivergents… Fuck reality.

                  There is too much diversity between different people for one universe to accept us all. That’s why we need a multiverse.

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                  When you’re in a dream, the things happening seem real, but they aren’t. That’s the way it was explained to Me by an indigenous man from the Tiwi Islands.

                  Science agrees with indigenous metaphysics. Cognitive psychologists have used evolutionary simulations to investigate the origins of perception. Donald Hoffman created a virtual environment and created some virtual creatures to live within in. One creature perceives the environment the way it actually exists. Another creature perceives only fitness payoffs. And fitness beats truth every time. Perceiving reality is a waste of resources that evolution selects against. Our ancestors were the primitive organisms who perceived fitness payoffs, not truth.