@jon@vivaldi.net sad to see android this high in the list. We are losing the desktop pc’s. I believe the desktop pc is undervalued! And should return to more households. It’s more powerful than a laptop or mobile. You can run Linux. And it’s also more ergonomic than looking down all day. Hehe
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I wonder how much damage smartphones, now being most people’s main interface to the world, have done to discourse and reading. I’ve heard that most people don’t own computers. And I know that trying to read any documents or longform articles on a phone is cumbersome and irritating. If someone sends me a link, I email it to myself and read on a real screen. Most people don’t have real screens… so they only read tweet length content. Have smartphones destroyed attention spans?
@stevenaleach@jon Definitely. The smartphone decreased the attention span, if only because of the “social media”.
We went from books to newspaper, to mainly online posts and blogs or articles. And now you see most people consume their news from small headlines alone, like on X.
And like you said, reading long in depth stories. Or news. Or other kind of material, only using a small screen on the phone isn’t the same. It’s so small, you get eye strain. Most people didn’t read this last line…
@stevenaleach@sigmoid.social @jon@vivaldi.net I also dislike the default mastodon character limit! Why? Because we are afraid of any arbitrary lengthy text? It’s the fediverse, not X or Facebook!
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net Yea, it’s funny - Twitter started out with the tiny character limit because of SMS. But then “micro” became a thing and we mistook a limitation for a feature… now we’re inflicting it on ourselves for no reason.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net What are you talking about? The weird thing about this poll is that apparently only 70% use a smartphone daily. And the interesting bit is how many people use multiple desktop operating systems on a default basis.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net things come and go. what concerns me is how phones have made 2-3 generations of computer illiterates out of most people who are basically technophobes anyway. #the_average_person_is_st00pid
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I one I looking at has 2 SSD drives and room for HDD for backup. Want small SSD for / and programs, larger one for /home so I can easily reinstall/upgrade, with the HDD as data backup. I have my own cloud on my hosted server for stuff. Want mini for portability between places, but sick of laptop and neck issues, want a nice keyboard and mouse,
@MorpheusB@aus.social @jon@vivaldi.net I see. I get what you’re after now. It’s always better than mobile phone for sure. And most likely much more ergonomic than a laptop. I just hope the performance are good enough to your liking.
Gpu you don’t really need I suppose. So igpu would be sufficient. Maybe ideally with a fast amd 7040 series cpu and ddr5 would be blazing fast. Together with a fast m2 ssd indeed.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I have been given a 24" monitor, perfect for desktop, and have usb keyboard and mouse and usb hub. Just need the NUC/mini computer.
@jon@vivaldi.net sad to see android this high in the list. We are losing the desktop pc’s. I believe the desktop pc is undervalued! And should return to more households. It’s more powerful than a laptop or mobile. You can run Linux. And it’s also more ergonomic than looking down all day. Hehe
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I wonder how much damage smartphones, now being most people’s main interface to the world, have done to discourse and reading. I’ve heard that most people don’t own computers. And I know that trying to read any documents or longform articles on a phone is cumbersome and irritating. If someone sends me a link, I email it to myself and read on a real screen. Most people don’t have real screens… so they only read tweet length content. Have smartphones destroyed attention spans?
@stevenaleach@sigmoid.social @jon@vivaldi.net Yea definitely smartphones decreased the attention span.
@stevenaleach @jon Definitely. The smartphone decreased the attention span, if only because of the “social media”.
We went from books to newspaper, to mainly online posts and blogs or articles. And now you see most people consume their news from small headlines alone, like on X.
And like you said, reading long in depth stories. Or news. Or other kind of material, only using a small screen on the phone isn’t the same. It’s so small, you get eye strain. Most people didn’t read this last line…
@stevenaleach@sigmoid.social @jon@vivaldi.net I also dislike the default mastodon character limit! Why? Because we are afraid of any arbitrary lengthy text? It’s the fediverse, not X or Facebook!
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net Yea, it’s funny - Twitter started out with the tiny character limit because of SMS. But then “micro” became a thing and we mistook a limitation for a feature… now we’re inflicting it on ourselves for no reason.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net What are you talking about? The weird thing about this poll is that apparently only 70% use a smartphone daily. And the interesting bit is how many people use multiple desktop operating systems on a default basis.
@drgroftehauge @jon I’m talking about the increase the mobile phone use vs Desktop use.
Edit: I also believe a lot of people didn’t know it was a multi selection poll.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net
The poll is multi-choice, tho. A lot of the people picking a desktop OS are also picking a mobile OS.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net things come and go. what concerns me is how phones have made 2-3 generations of computer illiterates out of most people who are basically technophobes anyway. #the_average_person_is_st00pid
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net agree. About to get mini computer
@MorpheusB@aus.social @jon@vivaldi.net and use the cloud for all the compute☁️? No thanks. Just give me a workstation already 🤣🤗
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I one I looking at has 2 SSD drives and room for HDD for backup. Want small SSD for / and programs, larger one for /home so I can easily reinstall/upgrade, with the HDD as data backup. I have my own cloud on my hosted server for stuff. Want mini for portability between places, but sick of laptop and neck issues, want a nice keyboard and mouse,
@MorpheusB@aus.social @jon@vivaldi.net ah I see. That sounds like a in between desktop and laptop kinda system. Sounds actually pretty cool.
What about your screen? Especially how do you bring that on eye level?
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net monitor on work desk, just like a desktop computer. I knew them as NUC.
https://store.minisforum.com/products/elitemini-hx99g
@MorpheusB@aus.social @jon@vivaldi.net I see. I get what you’re after now. It’s always better than mobile phone for sure. And most likely much more ergonomic than a laptop. I just hope the performance are good enough to your liking.
Gpu you don’t really need I suppose. So igpu would be sufficient. Maybe ideally with a fast amd 7040 series cpu and ddr5 would be blazing fast. Together with a fast m2 ssd indeed.
@melroy@mastodon.melroy.org @jon@vivaldi.net I have been given a 24" monitor, perfect for desktop, and have usb keyboard and mouse and usb hub. Just need the NUC/mini computer.
https://www.ple.com.au/Search/mini computer