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Jared Kushner just flagrantly violating the Logan Act multiple times. Will anything come of it? Doubtful.
minus-squareMaggoty@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·2 months agoInternational diplomacy without being an elected official or appointed by one is not protected speech. Using overly reductive language to make it sound like a campaign stop won’t change that.
minus-squareFlowVoid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down3·edit-22 months agoThe SCOTUS has made pretty clear that all speech is protected unless it falls into one of these categories: Incitement Obscenity Defamation Fraud Illegal advertising Fighting words Threats CSAM “International diplomacy” isn’t among the exceptions, and therefore it’s protected.
minus-squareMaggoty@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·2 months agoFraud certainly applies here.
minus-squareFlowVoid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·edit-22 months agoFraud requires deception. How does that apply here?
minus-squareMaggoty@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·2 months agoConspiracy to defraud the state department and/or president
minus-squareFlowVoid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·2 months agoAgain, defrauding means using deception. How does that apply here?
International diplomacy without being an elected official or appointed by one is not protected speech. Using overly reductive language to make it sound like a campaign stop won’t change that.
The SCOTUS has made pretty clear that all speech is protected unless it falls into one of these categories:
“International diplomacy” isn’t among the exceptions, and therefore it’s protected.
Fraud certainly applies here.
Fraud requires deception. How does that apply here?
Conspiracy to defraud the state department and/or president
Again, defrauding means using deception. How does that apply here?