Former German diplomat Wolfgang Ischinger says Western leaders should be making more threats and be willing to follow them through.

The West should spend less time fretting about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s red lines and set its own, says veteran German diplomat Wolfgang Ischinger.

“Russia keeps saying, if you do this, if you cross this or that red line, we might escalate,” said the 78-year-old onetime chairman of the Munich Security Conference. “Why don’t we turn this thing around and say to them: ‘We have lines and if you bomb one more civilian building, then you shouldn’t be surprised if, say, we deliver Taurus cruise missiles or America allows Ukraine to strike military targets inside Russia’?”

That way the onus will be on Moscow to decide whether to cross the red lines — or face the consequences.

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    Incorrect. Israel should cease to exist ==mean jew elimination no matter how hard or often you say it. Its frankly appalling you dont get this.

    Israel should cease to exist. It never should have existed, and what it deserves is dissolution. Your insulting followup “questions” are based on your personal feelings and are a red herring no matter how strong your feelings are.

    Seriously, go look up red herring before you forget.

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        here is a nice writeup on red herring and even tips on how to use it more effectively than you’ve been. The first important thing is understanding the term.

        I’ll help you over this hill youre lyin’ on… Your actual argument from the beginning is that “Israel as a state entity should continue to exist.”

        Your “red herring’s” purpose is to obfuscate your final position (Israel as a state should continue, simply because it’s already there.)

        By diverting attention towards how difficult it could be logistically, you hide from the immorality of israel’s existence.

        My OG reply simultaneously dismisses your “ok but how?” argument as fallacious and addresses your real point, “israel should exist”. If you actually think israel should exist as an ethnostate someplace, i actually think your country should host them and you should move out so they can have it.

        You have not done anything since except complain how its not fair i ignored your bad faith.

        Can you please take a little more care in your next response?