I guess they really want Israel to stop!

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    2 months ago

    Every dollar saved because of “defensive aid” gets spent on offensive weapons…

    If they had to pay for their own defense, they wouldn’t be able to start so many wars at once.

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      Normally, I could understand offering at least some minimal baseline level of defensive aid (edit: and perhaps even an inflated one considering that the the one year anniversary of the Hamas attack is coming up), but…

      Israel has nukes. Why the heck does the US need to offer defensive aid to a nuclear armed country?

      The US doesn’t do this for any other allied (UK, France) or loosely allied neutral (India) country with nukes.

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      2 months ago

      If they had to pay for their own defense they wouldn’t exist.

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        Bombing other people isn’t fucking self defense…

        I have no issues with funding actual defense mechanisms like the iron dome and whatever. Small munitions, bulletproof vests, whatever you need to DEFEND your citizens I’m cool with. When it turns outward and you start “military operations” against other countries that’s when I say good fucking luck on your own.

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          I have issue with supporting an apartheid state. I think aid should be conditioned on Israel granting full citizenship to Palestinians.

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              The opposite, granting Palestinians citizenship allows them to potentially control the government.

              Compare that to any point in our lifetime, where Israel has been their defacto government: Palestinians must report each birth, each change of address to a “foreign” government. If they want to leave their country, they must seek permission from the “foreign” government. If they want to visit their family across town, they must present identification to a “foreign” government.

              Citizenship ends apartheid.

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                Ah, I missed the “full” part. Yes, that would be great, but I don’t doubt that they’d still be treated as second-class citizens.

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              That would make their version of parliament roughly half Palestinian. More if the right of return was generally enforced. (Just allowing them to move back into the country) So the resulting country would actually be pretty fair to them as long as the apartheid part really is gotten rid of.

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        2 months ago

        Source for that?

        They’re trying to make sure other nations don’t exist.