Just because you can perform a job from home, doesn’t mean it’s ideal for performance. With jobs like surgeons or bus drivers it’s more obvious, but the cut is not as clear as people like it to be.
I would hope it doesn’t take you long to imagine someone who has access to information about you where you would prefer it not be open on their laptop on their kitchen table at home while guests are around.
I’m not trying to defend Amazon. This is an active subject at many companies.
I’m not talking about myself in your last quote. I consult clients on their operational and technological challenges. I see a lot. Of course, you might also consult similar amounts of clients and you can see that their largest deficit contributor is that people aren’t taking their work home, but that’s not what I’m getting from you.
You just seem angry, because you can’t stomach that there are valid reasons for you to move out of your comfort zone. Sorry.
Just because you can perform a job from home, doesn’t mean it’s ideal for performance. With
You’re refuting an assertion made by NO one.
No one said all jobs can be done remotely. When the site consolidated equipment or media somewhere, and there’s no way to manipulate stuff remotely then - of course - it’s not a remote capable job.
We’re ignoring that buses are just big drones and surgery has been performed by servos or volunteers at the direction of a specialist far away. But you make a point, as has been made before, that a lever which cannot yet be pulled by a remote action needs an agile meatbag to do so.
The point that has been made - oh god, thousands of times - is that jobs that can be remote, should be. And that egotistical managers needing to feel better by staring at asses in chairs all day and knowing they were forced there through threat of food insecurity, that’s not really a justification.
Amazon’s demanded its devs come back into the office for no value, despite the personality type of those devs, an objective assessment of the workpace they’re forced into - toxic - and the need to live within commute range to get there, limiting housing options for the workers and severely limiting the talent pool for companies. These are people who can, would, will and did the same work better and happier in an environment of their choosing - be it central office or personal office. Now they have no choice but to bend to the will of their boomer-esque managers who forgot it’s not the 1900s anymore.
For remote-capable jobs, the only reason workers need to take risks and spend more money to physically commute is purely and simply egos of bad managers.
That’s it. The dead weight they need to shed was in the office the whole time.
If you believe every developer at Amazon, including AWS, might as well permanently work from home, globally, then I just can’t take your opinion seriously. Sorry. All points have been made
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Just because you can perform a job from home, doesn’t mean it’s ideal for performance. With jobs like surgeons or bus drivers it’s more obvious, but the cut is not as clear as people like it to be.
I would hope it doesn’t take you long to imagine someone who has access to information about you where you would prefer it not be open on their laptop on their kitchen table at home while guests are around.
I’m not trying to defend Amazon. This is an active subject at many companies.
Security starts at the developer, you have to be deluded to think otherwise.
NDA, bulletproof’ed laptops, kernel-level-oversight, VPNs are just mitigations.
Everything is just mitigations. There is no zero risk.
You are making up theoretical situations to shill your point…
Why are you bootlickong this hard?
If job requires in person, market it as such and hire as such. Pretending that 90% of paper pushers need office is disingenous at best
I work in consulting. I don’t have to make up anything. Be angry, but some people are trying to play their role in capitalism successfully.
Haha lol OK? Literally notorious bootlickers… I hope you are a partner. Because otherwise you are bootlicking for against yourself
Yes everybody here who doesn’t agree with you is a poor entry level employee from a shiti state U.
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I’m not talking about myself in your last quote. I consult clients on their operational and technological challenges. I see a lot. Of course, you might also consult similar amounts of clients and you can see that their largest deficit contributor is that people aren’t taking their work home, but that’s not what I’m getting from you.
You just seem angry, because you can’t stomach that there are valid reasons for you to move out of your comfort zone. Sorry.
You keep trying to make this about me?
Why?
We are talking a corporate policy…
Weird angle to argue.
Also tells me you have no point beyond shilling this.
You’re refuting an assertion made by NO one.
No one said all jobs can be done remotely. When the site consolidated equipment or media somewhere, and there’s no way to manipulate stuff remotely then - of course - it’s not a remote capable job.
We’re ignoring that buses are just big drones and surgery has been performed by servos or volunteers at the direction of a specialist far away. But you make a point, as has been made before, that a lever which cannot yet be pulled by a remote action needs an agile meatbag to do so.
The point that has been made - oh god, thousands of times - is that jobs that can be remote, should be. And that egotistical managers needing to feel better by staring at asses in chairs all day and knowing they were forced there through threat of food insecurity, that’s not really a justification.
Amazon’s demanded its devs come back into the office for no value, despite the personality type of those devs, an objective assessment of the workpace they’re forced into - toxic - and the need to live within commute range to get there, limiting housing options for the workers and severely limiting the talent pool for companies. These are people who can, would, will and did the same work better and happier in an environment of their choosing - be it central office or personal office. Now they have no choice but to bend to the will of their boomer-esque managers who forgot it’s not the 1900s anymore.
For remote-capable jobs, the only reason workers need to take risks and spend more money to physically commute is purely and simply egos of bad managers.
That’s it. The dead weight they need to shed was in the office the whole time.
If you believe every developer at Amazon, including AWS, might as well permanently work from home, globally, then I just can’t take your opinion seriously. Sorry. All points have been made