he keeps tweaking his resume, cutting it from 10 pages to two, then beefing it up to 24.
I’m no expert, but a 24 page resume?! I think I found your problem bud.
Anything past 2-3 pages and I won’t read it.
Resumes are written for AI these days, not us.
That’s fine if all the real content is in the first couple of pages and the keyword soup is clearly marked as such.
Edit: I forgot to mention that’s just my opinion, and I don’t read a lot of resumes these days. I think the real thing to remember is that at some point your resume is going to be read by a human being, and you don’t want to piss them off by making a tedious job even harder.
That’s not a bad idea, I’ve been told that the hidden keyword soup is generally looked down upon, but I guess you could just make it visible.
Nope, because the automated pre-filter won’t even be able to understand it and will reject it outright.
Seriously, wtf? Even some of the most extensive CVs I’ve ever seen from people with 30+ year careers still only top out at maybe 5 or so pages. I’m guessing this dude is trying to do what every first timer does and put literally every thing they’ve ever learned on their resume, every course with the syllabus description, every hobby, and just attaching the full job description for every job they’ve ever done.
I have a 2 page resume, and can still fit every skill, my last 5 roles, and even any relevant hobbies or other things to “stand out”. There’s literally no reason to have a resume this large, and it’s going straight into the garbage.
Mine is 1 page. I never let it get longer, because most people I know don’t read past the first page. If it’s not important enough to go on page 1, it doesn’t need to exist on the resume.
Everything important is on the front page, but I put the more “fun” stuff on the back, in terms of personal projects/hobbies or other things that might be semi-relevant to the role.
It works pretty well, because it also allows me to gauge their interest in me pretty quickly if they bring up anything on the back page. If they didn’t find my resume interesting enough to even bother flipping it over/scrolling down, it’s probably not a great fit. So far, it’s worked pretty well as every single time an interviewer has brought up something on the back page, I’ve gotten an offer.
I also stick to a one page resume, but I brought a portfolio showing my work in greater detail. I’m an engineer so it was pictures of projects, technical drawings, and some stress analysis stuff. It seemed to help and I’m enjoying the company. So I guess I did both of the above.
Maybe I’ll manage to do some hobby stuff that’s worth including next time.
I left tech a couple years ago. Left as in I couldn’t find work, so I drifted through a few dead end jobs before my next career landed in my lap. And you know what? I’m happier doing this than I ever was working at a computer all day.
What’s your new career?
I work in nuclear power now. Valve work.
Steam deck getting new specs? /S
Gabe doesn’t want to brag about it, but the lads and ladettes actually compressed a Tesla’s battery to the size of a Game Gear, with no loss to mAH and its being included in the new Steam Deck. It also comes with a small fusion reactor to charge it in about 15 minutes. Customers have to provide cooling and a spent fuel pool, though.
I’m here for it. I’ve got my steel barrels, concrete and a backhoe in the backyard ready XD
Lol bro come on you can’t just say that and then not tell us what the new career is.
My bad, I work in nuclear power now.
I get random messages on LinkedIn from people that want to interview me weekly, and my team has also seen some voluntary turnover. I’m not sure that I believe the article.
In the last 3 months, I’ve managed to get 2 interviews and the last one ghosted me. It’s still pretty bad for some of us.
I can attest to this. People want workers with way too much experience, paying way too little money, and that’s on top of moving to a location that doesn’t make any sense. Some of the jobs I’ve seen here required me to move to a city where the rent is double what the salary would have been
Are you using a recruiter?
No, I don’t work with recruitment agencies anymore. Only ever had bad experiences with them earlier in my career, so these days, I apply for positions directly.
My husband in tech related job has been out of work for almost a year. He applies to things daily and has an interview once every two weeks or so (not counting many follow up interviews). He’s a decent interviewer. The usual response is, we like you for this, we’ll keep you in mind in the future, we just had so many applicants and the other guy is a better fit (or, we suspect, will do this job for less money). My brother in tech has also been out of work for months. Maybe your area is doing well? Our area had massive tech layoffs and is now way over saturated, and one of the main employers of our state (a tech firm) has been on a hiring freeze for months and months. Believe the article.
Get your resume out and see how long it takes you to just get a response asking to schedule a call. I’ve been job hunting opportunistically for 6 mo the and have applies to maybe 50 jobs and I have gotten 3 rejection emails and that is IT.
Woah I am not having this experience
I take it you’re having more responses?
What’s your role? Engineering?
Software / data engineering. ML and spatial background aside from CS stuff
Yeah well, you are still in far greater demand than supply even if that demand has dipped 50%. I’m in consumer software product management leadership and it’s slllllow out there.
I was laid off from a 16 year job at a tech hosting company and have been looking for a new job for about 4 months. It sucks
There is a lot of Tech in Tech.
Are we talking about Senior Designer-Developers, Web-Designers with 5 years experience or SEO experts with 2 years?!
What about mechanical engineers? Aerodynamic? Microsystems? Electronic? Tech companies always want these types.
Yeah, I was mainly thinking about mainly software companies because that’s my background but you make a very good point.
The “tech” label confuses me as a non-american. This means just IT programming/computer stuff, right? Because it’s funny to me that stuff like mechanical engineering isn’t considered part of “tech”.
Might be that the “tech” market is now saturated. Computer science was THE trend topic to doin STEM from my subjective view, so maybe that crashed into the bursting tech bubble that we are experiencing now with all the enshittification and layoffs and stuff.
Also most workers at tech companies are not computer programmers. Marketing, sales, support, success, operations, managment, recruiting, HR, accounting, project managment, and product managment usually make up most of the employees. You are probably better at these jobs if you have prior experience in the same industry, but what job isn’t like that?
“Tech” in the tech sector is really just short for high technology, which itself mostly just means information technology.
Engineers work on all kinds of technologies, not just information technology.
There’s lots of things that are ‘high tech’ that aren’t IT, though. Microsystems, nanotech, nanophotonics, high-precision machining, etc.
It’s actually very confusing. I think the only good definition is that it’s a cultural designation for any company that was focused on digital technology at its inception, which comes with a certain cultural package, and even that has some problems. Netflix is a tech company, not a movie studio, but HBO is not a tech company, even though it also has a streaming platform, and Netflix produces a lot of its own stuff, which is even more confusing because Netflix started as a company that would mail you DVDs. Amazon is a tech company, but WalMart is not, even though Amazon has many physical stores and WalMart does more and more of its business online.
Mechanical engineering can be a part of tech, but again I think it’s a cultural designation before anything else at this point. Plenty of mechanical engineers work at Apple, which is definitely a tech company, but if you’re a mechanical engineer working on an oil rig, that’s not tech.
Add to the confusion that Twitter is a tech company. At this point, what technology is Twitter really developing? Isn’t technology about innovation? No doubt that a platform of that size has substantial daily engineering problems to overcome, but like… is that really what we mean when we say technology? Plenty of non-tech companies also deal with the same thing.
I wrote a whole thing fleshing out my theory, if you’re curious.
edit: just under this post in my feed is one about how netflix is going to open physical stores.
In Germany we are still looking for people. Only catch is that you need to move to Germany and learn German. At least a little bit
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Companies get desperate. We now also hire non german speakers.
Ich lerne an der Universität Duolingo…
Literally was in Berlin a month ago, having lunch listening to two businessmen talk about how they cannot find enough cybersecurity talent anywhere, was kinda wild.
On cyber the need is real but the field is the size of walking across Europe and usually the need is that this special someone will walk everywhere to do everything as an expert for a regular salary.
Im not allowed to say the words I know.
Oh no :c
The amount of tech recruiters I have calling and emailing me daily would indicate otherwise.
They’re desperate for people that will work for less than a living wage for the area.
Idk about that. The jobs I get hit up for are all 225k-300k across various states.
They want the best and want to pay McDonald’s wages for it. Or the workplace is so toxic nobody lasts a week there
It might mot be hard, but it’s still a nightmare
Send a request, got an online interview a week later, another one a week later and a contract after 2 days.
Good pay, lots of training opportunities, no controlling managers and flexible work times.Of course, not in the US, lol. Thats where you get scewed either way.
Personally I found factory work to be a good stop gap, doing the exact same motion over and over again until the machine breaks tickles my neurons the same way programming does
As someone who literally just had to find a job or I would be SOL. No the market is fine rn. I sent out 200 apps. Got 5 interviews. 2 went to technical and both sent me an offer. It’s roughly the same it was 2 years ago, which was roughly the same it was 2 years before that. Also I’m self taught so any of you kids with degrees will have an easier go than me
Which field?
