There has been no animosity between Ramsdale and Raya. Arteta and Cana are happy with both players as options, who they view as excellent, and the level of training has surged as the ‘keepers push each other to perform better’.

Ramsdale is incredibly popular at Arsenal and has received expressions of support from senior players.

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    My only gripe with this situation is that Cana wanted Raya before Ramsdale so there may be a bit of selection bias in how Cana describes training performance of Raya over Ramsdale to justify his previous recommendation to Arteta.

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      Also that the entire goalkeeper coaching staff is Spanish - must be a bit frustrating for Ramsdale if there’s bias there

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        I mean tbf, isn’t basically our entire staff spanish for the most part? Is that unfair to outfield players who are english?

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    I mean it’s pretty simple. Ramsdale will not want to be a bench keeper for too long. Can’t keep them all.

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      This is right. Especially if his England place is in jeopardy. He will transfer eventually.

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    In the spirit of increasing the level, what exactly does Ramsdale need to improve on to exceed Raya as the choice in Arteta’s / Cana’s system? Is it just better passing or am I missing something else?

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      We have a lot of absolute dickhead fans that dream of being twitter ITKs and will drag this out for a long time.

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      Until the transfer window. Then we will get the “insider reports” that the player with less appearances is “growing frustrated” with the situation. That goes on till the summer all through the window then rinse and repeat every window. Look at Smith-Rowe for an example

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    Even then - there wasn’t as much scrutiny over that decision than this… At least from what I can remember.

    Maybe because everyone knew that Pep wanted a ball playing keeper and Hart wasn’t for him while our scenario is a bit “controversial” I guess?

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    I was over this “debate” when Raya played his first game. There is no argument or discussion to be had other than I hope Ramsdale stays

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    It’s because one of them is English and extremely likable. Reminds me a bit of when Pep dropped Joe Hart.

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      Even then - there wasn’t as much scrutiny over that decision than this… At least from what I can remember.

      Maybe because everyone knew that Pep wanted a ball playing keeper and Hart wasn’t for him while our scenario is a bit “controversial” I guess?

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    This should be the same non-story it would be for any outfield players competing for playing time.

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      I honestly can’t believe people care so much about this lol. They’re both mature adults and professionals who understand what the deal is, it really is not that deep

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        It’s because a Spanish manager and his Spanish GK coach are putting the soon to be number 1 English NT goalkeeper on the bench when he should have been on the verge (according to some) to take Pickford’s place… you won’t find similar discourse if you watch the PL from other countries (like France for example where they have the ex french GK coach of Chelsea as a pundit and he claims there’s no context as to Raya being clear number 1 in his opinion).

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        It’s because one of them is English and extremely likable. Reminds me a bit of when Pep dropped Joe Hart.

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          Even then - there wasn’t as much scrutiny over that decision than this… At least from what I can remember.

          Maybe because everyone knew that Pep wanted a ball playing keeper and Hart wasn’t for him while our scenario is a bit “controversial” I guess?

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    Summary:

    The competition between Aaron Ramsdale and David Raya for the position of Arsenal’s first-choice goalkeeper has been ongoing since Raya’s arrival from Brentford on loan in August. Arsenal’s goalkeeper coach, Inaki Cana, played a key role in Raya’s signing and believes he aligns better with the manager’s style. Raya has started more games recently, but his distribution has been criticized, which became more prominent after a few less impressive performances.

    Mikel Arteta, Arsenal’s manager, has publicly expressed that the goalkeeper position should be subject to changes based on game situations and performance. This public stance has added more scrutiny to the situation. Raya started both Premier League and Champions League games, despite Arteta’s emphasis on both goalkeepers needing game-time.

    Raya had some nervy moments with the ball at his feet but persisted in playing the way Arteta demands. Arteta commended Raya’s courage and ability to control the box. Ramsdale, although popular at Arsenal, may need game time to maintain his standing as an England international goalkeeper.

    There is no animosity between the two goalkeepers, and their competition has led to improved training levels. The decision to rotate the No. 1 goalkeeper spot is not unusual in football, and Arsenal may continue doing so. Ramsdale and Raya have each played four league games so far this season, with the potential for rotation in the future.

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      Only thing I got out of this is related the training levels. So bringing competition at the position has led to a higher standard. Perfect. Exactly what you would want for a team at the top.

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    Also that the entire goalkeeper coaching staff is Spanish - must be a bit frustrating for Ramsdale if there’s bias there

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      I mean tbf, isn’t basically our entire staff spanish for the most part? Is that unfair to outfield players who are english?

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    Brighton be like changing GK almost every week and no one cares. Cue Jurassic Park See Nobody Cares meme.