Isn’t there a bunch of heat over the owner (and by extension, the platform) from the government right now.
I don’t think I’d want to use a platform the government is so intent on getting a backdoor access to. Especially with the shit that “allegedly” is going on with Telegram.
Telegram, it’s “encryption” or lack thereof, whatever, is hiding behind it’s owner. And he’s got a what, $5 million dollar bond or something? The platform is being made an example of. And his kneck is on the chopping block.
If you think he won’t fold, you’re insane. The logs (yes, logs) will be handed over. Keys to encryption will be. Whatever it takes to gain 100% full access, will be given.
To think they won’t is purposeful, blatent, fanboyism. And to turn the conversation into a Telegram and Signal comparison is just… ugh.
Signal ain’t on trial here. Telegram isn’t even in the same area code as Signal in terms of security. But you already know that. Telegram is not, was not and never will be a secure, privacy centered messaging program.
And because it allowed some of its users to treat it like it is one, with nefarious intent, is why it’s going to burn in flames. And tbh, it should. People treated like it’s secure. When it was anything but. Reap it.
He’s either blocking them in the name of “user privacy” fighting the “good fight” or he’s refusing them because he’ll very likely be implemented, lawfully on the charges they want access over.
My point is, Telegram is done. It’s a rat trap at this point and anyone associated with it getting their info scraped - purposely.
I’m well aware of what you’re getting at. I’m insulted you’d think I’m not. But at some point you have to look at the situation for what it is - in the moment.
Telegram has the very public, very purposeful eye of the government on it right now. That platform cannot hide behind it’s owner taking the high road. It will bend the knee or it will close it’s doors.
That’s where it is right now. That’s no choice at all for it’s users, obviously.
Isn’t there a bunch of heat over the owner (and by extension, the platform) from the government right now.
I don’t think I’d want to use a platform the government is so intent on getting a backdoor access to. Especially with the shit that “allegedly” is going on with Telegram.
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Telegram, it’s “encryption” or lack thereof, whatever, is hiding behind it’s owner. And he’s got a what, $5 million dollar bond or something? The platform is being made an example of. And his kneck is on the chopping block.
If you think he won’t fold, you’re insane. The logs (yes, logs) will be handed over. Keys to encryption will be. Whatever it takes to gain 100% full access, will be given.
To think they won’t is purposeful, blatent, fanboyism. And to turn the conversation into a Telegram and Signal comparison is just… ugh.
Signal ain’t on trial here. Telegram isn’t even in the same area code as Signal in terms of security. But you already know that. Telegram is not, was not and never will be a secure, privacy centered messaging program.
And because it allowed some of its users to treat it like it is one, with nefarious intent, is why it’s going to burn in flames. And tbh, it should. People treated like it’s secure. When it was anything but. Reap it.
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Well there it is.
He’s either blocking them in the name of “user privacy” fighting the “good fight” or he’s refusing them because he’ll very likely be implemented, lawfully on the charges they want access over.
My point is, Telegram is done. It’s a rat trap at this point and anyone associated with it getting their info scraped - purposely.
That’s a pretty heft user base, there. GL.
Great discussion, BTW, man. I appreciate the back and forth. You were far more cival than me in this on a few things that is not lost on me.
Cheers.
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That’s every platform. Telegram is just too big to push back as hard as it has.
I’m well aware of what you’re getting at. I’m insulted you’d think I’m not. But at some point you have to look at the situation for what it is - in the moment.
Telegram has the very public, very purposeful eye of the government on it right now. That platform cannot hide behind it’s owner taking the high road. It will bend the knee or it will close it’s doors.
That’s where it is right now. That’s no choice at all for it’s users, obviously.
Which, “government”, are you referring to here if you could expand please?
Or are you saying all governments are averse to Telegram?
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