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Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to defederate from Lemmygrad.
Regrettably, we have observed a significant increase in hate speech and calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance. Due to the severity of the posts and comments, we are not waiting for the next Lemmy update that will allow users to block instances.
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It’s kinda fun watching liberals realize that Bolsheviks aren’t leftists
neither are liberals
it’s rad when a political position built on a lot of background knowledge is dismissed by people who lack that knowledge and have lived their whole lives in the global capital of anticommunist propaganda
Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere
It’s not that we’re uninformed, it’s that we disagree.
a lot of you are uninformed. You don’t know what you don’t know. I’ve fucking seen it firsthand. And it’s not surprising, because a lot of these topics are fucking arduous to learn about, you don’t just pick it up ambiently by browsing reddit and watching the news.
And a lot of you pretend that you know more than you know, pretend that others don’t know anything, and that a video of this one guy from 40 years ago paints a complete and accurate picture of what’s going on today. And have the balls to talk down to everyone else.
Like the other commenter said, it’s more that we disagree than that we are clueless. Just look at the comments section on that video and the way people who eat the video up handle that information about today. It’s reminiscent of conspiracy theory group think.
Also weird that you only focus on the US about the horrible things it has done. I can think of other governments–including my own–that have done and continue to do horrible things today. It’s not the gotcha moment you all think it is.
I post one thing, you think it’s the only thing I can post?
Up your game, then
a million Iraqis died on a lie in your lifetime. The bombings and sanctions after the Nayirah testimony killed another million people in the 90s. The Jessica Lynch abduction hoax was widely publicized, I’m sure you’ve heard of that one, Lynch herself came out against it. Fictitious witness accounts of a genocide in Libya led to a NATO bombing campaign that obliterated a once-prosperous country and there are now open-air slave markets in Libya. A large number of North Korean defector testimonies have fallen apart under scrutiny, as reported by the Guardian.
this is all stuff that’s been in the news, that you’ve probably heard of.
I’m really not excited to go further in a thread where people upvote something like this in response to my earlier comment:
Each and every one of those examples has been perpetuated by different people, save for the ones we can group by former Pres. GWB–an infamously known liar–for personal and/or political gain, and you can’t possibly claim that they’re all connected to a single entity in the US.
Regardless, everything you’ve said is quite off the mark. For example, the abduction of Jessica Lynch was real but it was falsely reported initially as a PR stunt to raise troop morale. The the NATO bombing campaign is also part of misinformation circulation online meant to shake trust in NATO that largely exaggerates its collateral damage. The open-air slave markets in Lybia are a result of the overthrow of the dictator Gaddafi and many years of instability in the area, and not as a direct & immediate action by NATO, which is even more disinformation. The false testimonies given by N. Korean defectors are a result of various factors including the defectors falling prey to influences like cash incentives and public pressure that aren’t necessarily tied to a concerted intervention.
Like I said, up your game. And now I’m asking you to cite your sources and to stop hiding behind the convenient excuse of not wanting to spend too much time on this. Because if you’re giving the time to type something up, you have time to look it up as well.
The only impression you’re giving me is that you’re on some weird tirade to denigrate the US with your own brand of propaganda and misinformation. And, I repeat, I say this as a non-US citizen and because it’s so obvious. The only source you’ve given is ridden with conspiracy theory group-think. What other sources do you have?
Nothing about that changes the fact that Bolsheviks aren’t leftists. You guys have never seen an argument that you didn’t dodge with a red herring or straw man.
It’s always the “you’re so blinded by propaganda!” angle that they all baa in unison while talking down to you. I’m so over it, tbh.
They have some secret source that they all know about that makes them more knowledgeable than everyone else. Because if they had to admit that wasn’t the case, their worldview and arrogance falls apart.
“The US must be to blame for Russia invading Ukraine because I said so and I’ve only read books on the ‘US bad’ side like a real intellectual!”
Definitely. This commenter I replied to is now claiming that the US is responsible for this and that, but a quick search of all their claims debunks their stance. Could the US be bad? Sure, every single government will do some shady shit to protect their interests. For example, my country has been involved in sequestering and murdering protesters in recent years. Was it the whole government? Of course not, it was a local one with their own interests and layers of corruption because these things are complex. And likewise, I don’t understand why they have to lie about what the US does and exaggerate it beyond reason, like going as far as to wrongfully blame it for other unrelated things. Just tell the truth! Why is it so hard?
a claim I literally never made.
emphasis on quick.
You didn’t make an argument, you just said “Bolsheviks aren’t leftists.” Am I supposed to write some kind of “most common criticisms” FAQ-style response? What do you want from me on a fucking weeknight.
“Bolsheviks aren’t leftists” is an argument, bud. And what you’re supposed to do, if you want to respond, is address the argument, not something else that you find easier to attack
It’s a statement, something you would back up with arguments.
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Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere
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There are plenty of people (including those in power in some countries) that absolutely lie about capitalism.
Their lies, although clearly in support of other regimes, don’t make capitalism any less shitty.
Likewise, some capitalist lying about communism doesn’t make communism any less shitty.
They are both crappy systems, and they lead into each other, because at their core, they tend towards different and opposite kinds of violation.