If it doesn’t what does it do?

  • paf0@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Is the sound I hear when I call you still a ring? If so, has your phone still rung?

    • jet@hackertalks.com
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      23 days ago

      In the purest sense of the word no, there is no ringer, there’s no bell

      In the colloquial sense of the word sure, the phone has alerted you that there is a call

      If your phone gets a call but doesn’t give you any indicator was their call at all? Probably

      • PoopingCough@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        Language for sounds doesnt work like that though. If I hear a pop song and say “dang that’s a great snare” it isn’t wrong if technically the sound is actually a synthesized snare. When you hear something you can name it without it having to be physically present. Plus plenty of things ring without being a bell.

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        23 days ago

        If you call for takeout, how can you be at home, silently? You’re not “calling” anything, nor taking anything out, as you’re squarely staying in.

        Being that prescriptive would end up like an irl version of the Big Bang theory, just much much worse. (And the original is already… eh.)

        • TwentySeven@lemmy.world
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          22 days ago

          Maybe this is a regional thing, but I don’t agree with that example, I think take-out means you leave the house to get it. If they bring it to you, it’s delivery.

          I also wouldn’t say I “called” for take-out unless I made a phone call. Otherwise, I would say I ordered it.