Eh… So… About that first bit… I’ve got bad news for you buddy if you think that privatized healthcare is great and you think that Americans don’t pay way too much for it.
The US government is the one that pays the most per capita for healthcare, what everyone pays in taxes for healthcare is only used to cover about a third of the population, that means the rest also needs to pay for private insurance as well or they’re not covered at all and pay out of pocket when they need to go to the hospital.
Life expectancy, child death, death during labour, look at the stats, the US is worse than some very poor countries that offer healthcare for everyone.
Hell, if you pay taxes in Alberta then I’ve got news for you buddy, you’re paying fuck dick for healthcare. You’re ready to pay for private insurance in the USA instead of paying rent somewhere for a few months to have an address or finding someone that lets you use their address in order to apply for Alberta coverage? All that tells me is that you’re not one that lets logic get in their way!
I already have American insurance. Spend half my time there. I’m not in the habit of lying, it’s a pride thing. If I ever get hurt I’ll just cry to the cbc about it
Wow. You really are a toxic asshole. Imagine being such an asshole you wish cancer on someone. Hope your parents see this post!
Lets see,
My grandma got cancer, she got it treated and lived another 15 years.
My wife’s grandfather was found to have late stage throat cancer, he was admitted into a hospital within the day, where he opted for MAID instead of treatment, being 95 years old.
My wife needed a C-section, and got it within hours.
My american friend has had reoccuring melinoma, and has had it treated every time without cost.
when my son was born, we had weekly house vists from a nurse to check in how he was doing, for two months, free of charge.
my manager needed an emergency triple bypass, which they got, within 24 hours. and then 2 weeks of hospital stay, which they got.
And in all of that, you know what our biggest expense was? Food, and not for the patient, for the rest of us who was there supporting them
Congratulations, under privatized/american style healthcare, you wouldn’t have health insurance, would pay more tax to the government for said lack of healthcare, AND if anything happens, you will have to pay 10x more! WOO, worst of both worlds!
Right, of course that’s your go to. The fact that the tax paid by the average american for healthcare is higher than the Canadian, or that they keep pushing for a single payer is of course a globalist psy-op.
Or, you know, the american health care system sucks unless you are paying huge amounts for insurance…
I forget the exact stat, but something like 67% of bankruptcies in the United States are largely due to medical related debts. Which makes it the leading cause of bankruptcies for US citizens.
Thats on top of the the tax paid, for an average health care expense per capita of $12,555. Canada is at $6,319 per capita, aka half, despite offering universal health care.
Look at all these people making thr same tired fallacious arguments like they’ve been trained, bud. I’m not sure they’re even real people. Rag on Americans, bring up Scandinavian happiness, pretend out system works out of misguided patriotism, and ignore how I mentioned Mexico too.
Sure. You know how when you need a dentist you either pay or have private insurance, but because it’s private, you can actually get the care you need in a reasonable time frame? You realize that’s because it’s not a government monopoly? I’m not playing your fucking “source” game when anyone honest can see what’s going on.
For years now my dentist (who runs a private business) can’t get me an appointment every 6 months like recommended because he’s too busy, I had to wait months for a repair, same experience for my girlfriend at another dentist.
Tons of people haven’t been going to the dentist at all because they couldn’t afford it because it’s private, it’s become so much of an issue that the federal government had to launch the public coverage program.
It’s been a huge success, so much so that dentists can’t keep up with the increased demand. Based on what you’re saying the fact that dental care is private should mean that demand wouldn’t have increased when public coverage started, right? Because private care and private insurance is so much better that everyone gets to go whenever they want and everyone can afford it, right?
The only person not arguing in good faith and lying here is you. The proof being that you’re just unable to provide sources to back up your claims but you keep arguing.
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Eh… So… About that first bit… I’ve got bad news for you buddy if you think that privatized healthcare is great and you think that Americans don’t pay way too much for it.
The US government is the one that pays the most per capita for healthcare, what everyone pays in taxes for healthcare is only used to cover about a third of the population, that means the rest also needs to pay for private insurance as well or they’re not covered at all and pay out of pocket when they need to go to the hospital.
Life expectancy, child death, death during labour, look at the stats, the US is worse than some very poor countries that offer healthcare for everyone.
Hell, if you pay taxes in Alberta then I’ve got news for you buddy, you’re paying fuck dick for healthcare. You’re ready to pay for private insurance in the USA instead of paying rent somewhere for a few months to have an address or finding someone that lets you use their address in order to apply for Alberta coverage? All that tells me is that you’re not one that lets logic get in their way!
I already have American insurance. Spend half my time there. I’m not in the habit of lying, it’s a pride thing. If I ever get hurt I’ll just cry to the cbc about it
“I’m not in the habit of lying” he lied.
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Aww, your true colours are showing.
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Wow. You really are a toxic asshole. Imagine being such an asshole you wish cancer on someone. Hope your parents see this post!
Lets see,
And in all of that, you know what our biggest expense was? Food, and not for the patient, for the rest of us who was there supporting them
Yea, the american system is fucked.
Weekly visits from a nurse for months? If you’re gonna call a guy a liar, at least make your lies believable
Funny because the five years survival rate is pretty much the same in the USA and Canada, it just costs you a lot less in Canada 👍
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Congratulations, under privatized/american style healthcare, you wouldn’t have health insurance, would pay more tax to the government for said lack of healthcare, AND if anything happens, you will have to pay 10x more! WOO, worst of both worlds!
You don’t know how anything works, but don’t let that stop you.
Right, of course that’s your go to. The fact that the tax paid by the average american for healthcare is higher than the Canadian, or that they keep pushing for a single payer is of course a globalist psy-op.
Or, you know, the american health care system sucks unless you are paying huge amounts for insurance…
I forget the exact stat, but something like 67% of bankruptcies in the United States are largely due to medical related debts. Which makes it the leading cause of bankruptcies for US citizens.
It’s not. You’re just making shit up.
Oof, I knew you were ignorant… but…
“Individuals enrolled in group health plans paid an average annual premium of $8,435 in 2023 (about $703 per month), according to data from independent health and medical research firm KFF. For families, the total annual premium averaged at $23,968 — or about $1,997 per month.”
Thats on top of the the tax paid, for an average health care expense per capita of $12,555. Canada is at $6,319 per capita, aka half, despite offering universal health care.
IE: in the USA you pay more, get less.
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Yes, yes, we have been over this, you are a liar, we know. You admit it, we know. I bring the facts, you bring lies. We know.
If these are lies you should be able to provide a source showing otherwise, right?
Yah your ‘not’ brainwashed. Sure their bud.
Look at all these people making thr same tired fallacious arguments like they’ve been trained, bud. I’m not sure they’re even real people. Rag on Americans, bring up Scandinavian happiness, pretend out system works out of misguided patriotism, and ignore how I mentioned Mexico too.
So, start making arguments that are based in fact that refute what they are saying. I see a lot of comments by you but nothing of substance.
Sources buddy, show us we’re wrong with sources.
Sure. You know how when you need a dentist you either pay or have private insurance, but because it’s private, you can actually get the care you need in a reasonable time frame? You realize that’s because it’s not a government monopoly? I’m not playing your fucking “source” game when anyone honest can see what’s going on.
No source, no facts
For years now my dentist (who runs a private business) can’t get me an appointment every 6 months like recommended because he’s too busy, I had to wait months for a repair, same experience for my girlfriend at another dentist.
Tons of people haven’t been going to the dentist at all because they couldn’t afford it because it’s private, it’s become so much of an issue that the federal government had to launch the public coverage program.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231106/dq231106a-eng.htm
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/how-often-should-you-go-to-the-dentist-survey-says-many-canadians-aren-t-going-enough-1.6633890
https://www.healthcoalition.ca/more-than-just-a-plan-it-is-a-lifeline-says-denturist-on-the-canadian-dental-care-plan/
It’s been a huge success, so much so that dentists can’t keep up with the increased demand. Based on what you’re saying the fact that dental care is private should mean that demand wouldn’t have increased when public coverage started, right? Because private care and private insurance is so much better that everyone gets to go whenever they want and everyone can afford it, right?
The only person not arguing in good faith and lying here is you. The proof being that you’re just unable to provide sources to back up your claims but you keep arguing.
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Provide a source showing that it doesn’t cost Americans more, it should be super easy to do it if it’s real.
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