Christian here.
Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
Your religion is rotten. I judge it by its fruit.
That’s not helpful right now.
Calling out Christians on their bullshit support of a fascist criminal that completely disrespects all of the values of their religion isn’t helpful?
@Inanimate_Carbon_Rod obviously doesn’t support that fascist. We need all the allies we can get, and you’re pushing them away.
He supports a religion that supports that fascist.
That’s whats great about spirituality, no one person can say what you believe other than you. Similarly, Christianity doesn’t have a single voice of authority.
We’re not talking about spirituality. I’m spiritual. We’re talking about organized religion, that has an awfully genocidal and hateful track record, with one halfway decent prophet who said some nice things, and also some completely incoherent things about being one with the hateful God of this religion.
Christ, if he was at all like his stories, was a pretty cool guy.
Shame Christianity co-opted his name.
Yeah, that’s why I said the religion is rotten. If I say an apple is rotten, people don’t usually respond by saying “Yeah but it came from a cool tree”.
I know quite a few atheist pieces of shit.
I know quite a few human pieces of shit.
Good for you. What does that have to do with Christianity being rotten?
Well we are just lumping groups together by their “rotten fruit” aren’t we?
No, we’re describing a religion and what its followers behave like. Atheism isn’t a religion or a group. It’s a choice to refrain from belief in a god. Christianity has churches, pastors, and now presidents who lead their followers into morally reprehensible behavior. One is rotten fruit, the other is rejecting rotten fruit. It’s not the same.
Ok, so no room for me to prove I’m a good person?
None whatsoever?
I’m judged because of my beliefs, not my behaviour?
I said nothing about you as a person. My criticism is of your religion. If you’re taking it personally, that’s on your own conscience, and perhaps something you should reflect on.
A good person doesn’t support their religion when their religion is creating fascism in their country.
A good person stands up and says to trump: Despite my beliefs, I denounce what you are saying and cast you out of my religion you heathen.
But this is not what we are seeing, is it? You are against trump, I assume, yet you still defend religion before you fight fascism. Maybe ask yourself why that is.
Good luck defending what trump does in the name of religion.
The main difference between Christianity and atheism is that atheism is no organised movement. We don’t have a pope (no matter what Christians say about us, I don’t follow any of the so called “leaders” of the atheist movement like richard dawkins and his positions on the trans right movement for instance) and we don’t have a centralised structure, we simply don’t believe in ANY god.
On the other hand there is Christianity and all organised religions which, as the name suggests, are ORGANISED around a central set of dogmas which are intended to be accepted as gospel by all their members. If you’re part of one of such religions you implicitly accept all their teachings as true and you support their message and actions. If you don’t want to be lump in with all other cultists following these directions please remove yourself from this specific group or shut the hell up.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk, I’ll be here as long as needed
The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a “Christian” state.
This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there’s no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.
American Christians will martyr themselves for their silly beliefs. But not before murdering a bunch of people.
A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.
The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.
Under threat? Because it’s declining in popularity? Sounds like the will of the people if you ask me.
That and the least amount of their privilege being questioned/ignored/dethroned is what they hate the very most.
They don’t WANT people to have a right to choose to ignore their little book club. They don’t believe in this country, which is secular. They want xtian Shariah law to be the law of the land, which violates the very principles of this country.
A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve
That they can pretend to solve.
when your only skills are being angry and stupid you have to get creative
Their skill is making other people angry, and that anger makes them stupid and easily manipulated.
I had an old boss tell me that Christians are the most persecuted people on earth. They truly believe it and get off on it. All while existing in a country where you almost have to be Christian or at least Jewish to be elected to national office. It’s pure mass delusion propaganda.
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What about kings and emperors?
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Fuck no, not even wannabe ones like Turd.
What about kings and emperors?
Witcher 2 opening scene comes to mind. (time stamped)
No gods, no masters, no slaves.
Are we building an underwater city?
Yes!
Is this just a map link to all of Florida?
No masters=no slaves. It’s self describing.
Fair point. I’ve only seen the phrase written as, “No masters, no slaves.”
The anarchist term is: no gods(atheism=free spiritually) no masters(no slavery=free in reality).
No gods, no masters" is a political slogan associated with anarchist and leftist labor movements, expressing a desire for freedom from both religious and secular authority. The phrase is a rejection of all forms of oppression and hierarchical structures, including those based on religion and power. Elaboration: Origin: The phrase “no gods, no masters” likely has roots in a 15th-century German proverb and gained prominence in the 1870s through a disciple of Auguste Blanqui. Meaning: It signifies a rejection of all forms of authority and control, including religious, political, and economic domination. Anarchist Context: The slogan is a core principle of anarchism, which advocates for a stateless society based on self-governance and voluntary cooperation. Leftist and Labor Movements: The phrase is also used by leftist and labor movements to express opposition to capitalist structures and to advocate for worker empowerment and social justice. Other Meanings: The phrase can also be used in a more general sense to express a desire for individual autonomy and freedom from external constraints.
The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the “rebels” in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.
I am hoping that America’s new implementation of this “Christian state” proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.
Meanwhile the vast majority of the leaders don’t give a shit about christianity except when it comes to elections and a means to an end. Anyone who tries to say Donald Fucking Trump is a christian is in a cult.
Bible authoritarianism.
Based on one very specific “interpretation” of the Bible that nobody is allowed to argue against.
We are going to be required to interpret the bible as justifying conservative power hierarchies, which requires ignoring surface level interpretations of most of the book.
The fascists have done a damn fine job of consolidating power in the church by grossing out most of the leftists into not attending, now the physical place designated for moral and ethical debate and community organization in society is dominated by the right.
If you are a self proclaimed leftist in America i implore you to get your butt into a church pew and integrate with their community, only tithe if you are confident the money is serving the community, and lead everywhere you can.
He REALLY wants to be pope
Can he be pope on a rope?
Rage against the machine wrote a really great song called: bullet in the head.
Bring that song to reality with Trump America. I believe in you. Sincerely a Canadian.
This is the kind of separation needed!
hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos
It’s already more successful
That’s only because he isn’t the one handling the business, but those choads that wrote Project 2025. They just keep shoving EOs in front of him and he signs them.
To be fair the casinos are a pretty low bar, but yeah…
I’m gonna teach about how church molests everything it touches. I’m going to teach how religion uses “peace and love” as a rouse to get you to trust them, like a predator. I encourage the state to do this
But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?
The man should be investigated first for the most flagrant violations. I don’t know if holding a bible upside-down counts, but we can go on from there.
Most kings, dictators, emperors in history claimed to be gods themselves or at least to have been chosen by whatever gods were popular in their territories.
Generally none of these guys were big on following the moral teachings of “their” religion, more to claim that what they want is a direct emanation of the will of the gods, so it must just be accepted.
That’s why separation of Church and State is a thing in a working democracy and that’s (of f-ing course) why it’s now being targeted
As if the fucking Christian indoctrination wasn’t already bad enough here.
No. It’s the woke that was doing the indoctrination.
Now, against the wall so we can inspect your purity.
It is not going to teach Christianity but to end it.
You haven’t seen anything yet. They’re trying to build their own Saudi Arabia.
There is hope that the backlash from this will be brutal. It will take half a generation to get here. But overall Christianity is not gaining more net followers, especially not the asshole flavors that so vocally seem to represent it.
overall Christianity is not gaining more net followers, especially not the asshole flavors that so vocally seem to represent it.
Thank God for that.
A poor mans Dubai.
With just half of the cards and only one ugly male hooker called Krasnov.
Oh lovely, a christian theocracy. How long before they start talking about having morality police?
I give it six months. Gotta hit em hard and fast.
I cannot respect any “Christian” that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.
Well then Allah be praised!
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Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”
Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.
“Religious liberty commission”
For some reason as a Jewish person I get the strong feeling that this commission wont help me freely practice my religion.
Nor if you are a Muslim a Buddhist, a Mormon or a Catholic
Also, even though the deluded right wing like to claim that “secularism is a religion”, and same for liberalism or any other ism they are skeered of, they won’t be letting anyone practice those, either.
Meaning: free thought will be a thoughtcrime.
Time to get to work Satanic Temple.
