• jet@hackertalks.com
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    1 year ago

    There are 6 million people in Israel, of that about 2 million is Israel Palestinian.

    There are a about 6 million people in Palestinian.

    If Israel won’t let Palestine be a independent country, then the 4 million Isrealies and the 8 million Palestinians need to integrate and come to some South African truth and reconciliation level of cultural assimilation.

    Not letting people be independent but making them second class citizens will never see a end to violence.

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        1 year ago

        At the moment there is so much bad blood that I don’t think that the current generation can reach a truce. It doesn’t also help that neither of the sides is ready to make any concessions and without concessions long lasting peace would never be achieved.

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      1 year ago

      But Palestine and especially the Hamas are also denying Israel their right to be an independent country. The Hamas is also denying Jews in general their existence and wants to eradicate them, how does this work in your equation?

      The conflict between Israel and Palestine is the real one and worth solving, but the Hamas is nothing more than a terror organization.

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        1 year ago

        I agree. Hamas is an intractable bad actor. To get reconciliation between the populations, we need to have both populations engaged in a hopeful future, so that most of the population does not support religious extremists violent bad actors. We have to make Hamas the worst option for the general population, not the best.

        Israel and Palestine both exist on the same land. There’s no solution that’s going to make everybody happy. In an ideal world they’d both have their independent territory split, and let bygones be bygones. But that’s not the world we live in.

        If Palestine can’t have its own land, then I see the only tenable solution is integration between the populations. You can’t have an effectively imprisoned population and expect stability.

        Honestly, I blame the British. Their long history of drawing lines on maps, the local people be damned, has been the source of lots of conflict.

        Other potential options I see: a UN military force maintaining a separation between the populations, and a road to independence.

        A secular government, from all religions, being the administrative head of the entire territory, and then religious governments for subregions to represent their direct populations. Something like the state model in the United States.