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    Literally impossible to avoid Nestle. Even going to a restaurant or getting take out, benefitted Nestle in some way. Really it’s the fault of governments for allowing a corporation to get that big

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      It’s hard but not impossible. When you go grocery shopping always look at the back of the product to see if it has the taint.

      Problem is indeed the restaurant as you can’t be sure if they didn’t you nestle products.

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          Sure, its pissing against the wind. And I lose out on kitkat and lion (damn i liked that bar) or I need to buy “clones” but I can’t wholeheartedly buy their shit. It may not be much, but atleast i can live with myself.

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            You could order KitKat from the US. Hershey makes it here.

            I wouldn’t recommend it though, Nestle KitKat is much better. It’s a shame Nestle is so evil or else I’d be driving over to Canada to stock up every few weeks.

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            The amount of sugar and palm kernel oil in Nestle chocolate makes me not even enjoy their products if I get them for free. They barely taste like cocoa

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        It’s not always that obvious. Nestle owns many companies and many of those products say nothing about Nestle on them.

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            Thats a searchable list of all products/brands by Nestle? Thats quite helpful!

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          Sure they do own many companies. I just dont think its impossible, as I steer clear of anything nestle. Sometimes I grab something new and sounds interesting like the Vegan products by Gourmet Garden and just putting it quickly back as I saw nestles logo printed on the back.

          It takes a bit of discipline.

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            Lol, no, you don’t understand. Companies (literally millions of them) own many other companies that they never put any logo on or anything. For an outside of Nestle example, check out this list of companies owned by Kroger that you will never find anything labeled by Kroger inside of:

            https://www.kroger.com/i/kroger-family-of-companies

            Also this list may be VERY incomplete because it’s hosted by Kroger and they have no obligation to give the entire truth here.

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              Food 4 Less, Ralph’s, and Jay C Foods all have Kroger brand foods on their shelves. Not sure about the rest as I haven’t shopped at the rest of those stores. Also they are attempting to acquire Albertson’s.

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              I’ve never seen Kroger nor any of that companies. Do they sell in Germany?

              And if the umbrella company is proud of thier products they bought, of course they put their label on it or state it somewhere. Where else would be the point of it? Brand recognition and all.

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                Kroger is a grocery store chain in the US, I suspect they don’t operate in Germany but I might be wrong.

                They basically are or own many different grocery store chains across most of the US.

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            I think you’re missing the point I was making. There’s a lot of Nestlé products that don’t have their logo anywhere on the packaging because it’s instead made by a company Nestlé owns

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            “It takes a bit of discipline.”

            Also, you should work on your tone, speaking like you’re holier than thou is already cringe, but when you’re wrong it just makes you look like a big idiot.

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              Yes it does take a bit of discipline. And no, I dont think I’m holier than thou.

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              I don’t think they were saying it ONLY takes a bit of discipline. To me, the charitable interpretation is, they’re saying that they see something new they want, and see the nestle logo, and the act of denying the want takes discipline.

              You’re both right, of course. It DOES take discipline to always put back the nestle-labeled goods, and there are MANY nestle-subsidiary-owned items that don’t have a nestle logo in sight

              Edit: ok, a bit lower hea def being holier than thou a bit lol

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        I can’t help but notice you have disagreed with the comment above you, then gone on to explain that the exception to your disagreement is the exact scenario they described.

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          Except no? Its not “literally impossible” to avoid nestle. You simply have to shop your groceries more mindful.

          But okay, if its utterly impossible to look on the back of the package and or do a quick internet search to see if that label belongs to nestle, yeah its impossible.

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            This whole thread is weird. I think it’s hilarious how people are arguing with you, saying it’s impossible and then linking sites that list every brand owned by Nestlé. You’d think it would occur to them that if one is able to consult a list, that makes it possible to avoid Nestlé products, since one can merely consult the list.

            I think there are some synapses not firing here 😅

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              You’d think it would occur to them that if one is able to consult a list, that makes it possible to avoid Nestlé products

              I think you’re forgetting something. This entire chain started with an example to support the theory of it being impossible. The one about eating out where you don’t know the ingredients being served to you or what brand they’re from. You chose to ad hom without even addressing it. 🤷

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                Oh sorry I didn’t realize we are legally mandated to eat out at places that use Nestle products, my bad.

                The statement that it’s impossible is entirely wrong.

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                  Was that supposed to be a coherent response? Everyone eats out. I think you would have to scour a nation pretty thoroughly to find even a single person that hasn’t at least had a McDonald’s shake or something. Whether something is mandated or not was not the conversation. The conversation was whether or not it’s possible to actively avoid completely, and restaurants hardly ever list their recipe as it is proprietary.

                  Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No? Then why would you posit that response? You’re going to need more to support your claim than what you’ve said here before you can justify dismissing people.

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                    hasn’t at least had a McDonald’s shake or something

                    What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant. If they choose to forgo Nestle products from this day forward, then it is possible.

                    Are you legally mandated to go shop at the grocery store? No?

                    I never argued that one was legally mandated to shop at a grocery store. Whether one shops at a grocery store or not, one can consult a list and therefore not buy Nestle products. This is quite simple.

                    Then why would you posit that response?

                    Just as an example of how it is possible not to buy certain products, regardless of how ubiquitous they are.

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      Is it? I’ve not knowingly consumed anything from Nestlé in 20 years.

      Edit: I have a bland palate and having a dairy allergy helps. I’m also incredibly stubborn!

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        That’s awesome! I think it’s important to note, however, that the burden of change here is not on the individual. The average person is not an activist, and shouldn’t be expected to be. Nestle knows that, too.

        Change on this scale can only happen through government regulation.

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          That’s an interesting justification for contributing to Nestle. There’s no more personal responsibility left in this country I swear

          Do you also wear blood diamonds and eat veal?

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            Do you also wear blood diamonds and eat veal?

            Why, do you expect me to wear blood rubies while eating veal, like some prole?

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            No.

            Doing your own part as much as you are aware or capable is good, but if I were to try to avoid anything unethically sourced, I simply would not be able to participate in the modern world.

            Do you use electricity? Do you have a cell phone? Have you ever used anything battery operated, like a flashlight? Have you ever eaten a hamburger? Have you worn a shirt?

            Going around shaming people for things that are simply inevitably contributing to some unethical corporation is useless. We just need to agree that there is a problem, and do our best to make change.

            I’m all for making personal commitments on topics you feel passionate about. But the fact is, that won’t make a difference on the grand scale. Only through government action is that possible.

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              Actually you can make a difference. I guarantee there are at least a couple younger family members that look up to you.

              Any children you might have will learn from your example.

              It really seems like you were trying to justify contributing to a truly evil industry by saying that there are plenty of other evil industries…

              “Well nothing is ethical so I don’t have to be!”

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        Oh you’ve consumed Nestle, you just don’t know it. They have over 200, brands and millions of individual products. Not to mention their non food companies. Again, it’s an issue that governments should have dealt with long ago, and never should have let them get that big

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      Eating zerocarb (aka carnivore) works, especially if you only drink tap water; Add coffee and you have to be a little careful

      Also be careful on soaps and hair care

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        Zero carb has its own host of issues, not just from the nutrition side of things, but also a host of ethical concerns