You keep telling me what won’t work or what won’t change anything, now tell me what will. You’re implying there’s some course of action I haven’t considered. Well, what is it? You want to save Palestinian lives, ok, how?
Well, that’s not really what I was saying. Sure, I have considered many different forms of political action. My question, really, and I should have clarified this better, is: what other course of political action is available to me, here, in the US, today? Protesting? Maybe I’m wrong, but that doesn’t seem to accomplish much of anything. Joining some political advocacy group? Trying to lobby politicians? I’m sorry, but, all of those seem pretty pointless to me.
Protesting? Maybe I’m wrong, but that doesn’t seem to accomplish much of anything.
No arguments from me there - the liberal brand of protesting is designed to accomplish absolutely nothing. That’s why it’s the only form of protest that is legal.
But then again… there are forms of protesting that aren’t liberal-approved - and have proved very effective.
I’m sorry, but, all of those seem pretty pointless to me.
As pointless as kicking the fascism can four years down the road? that’s literally your best-case scenario come November - according to liberal-approved politicians and their bootlicker media, anyway.
I’m not telling you not to vote - you should vote. Vote for that sack of lying shit called Biden (or whatever sack of lying shit they’re going to replace him with) because they aren’t giving you a choice.
The fact that the liberals aren’t giving you a choice means the liberals lied to you - you don’t live in a democratic society and you never have. But that also means you’re not bound to only consider liberal-approved politics, are you?
But that also means you’re not bound to only consider liberal-approved politics, are you?
Uh, yeah. I am literally bound. We all are, constrained by laws and the state. Try to go outside those bounds and you end up in prison, or dead. And if you die, you won’t be a martyr, you’ll just be some fool who fucked around and found out.
Try to go outside those bounds and you end up in prison, or dead.
Well duh… why did you think those laws exist? Did you really think those fascist goon squads you call “police” that you also fund with your taxes actually exist to “protect” you?
Gee… how much blatant evidence do you need shoved in your face before you actually believe what it is that you are seeing?
And if you die, you won’t be a martyr, you’ll just be some fool who fucked around and found out.
Clyde, if it wasn’t for people willing to break the law you wouldn’t even know what a week-end is.
Gee… how much blatant evidence do you need shoved in your face before you actually believe what it is that you are seeing?
What makes you think I don’t believe what I’m seeing? I see it, I believe it.
Clyde, if it wasn’t for people willing to break the law you wouldn’t even know what a week-end is.
Well, be my guest. I’m not going to break the law because it seems like a high risk, low reward option. I will almost certainly be fined or jailed, and I don’t see how any meaningful change will come about as a result of it.
If you are unwilling to risk anything for change… fine. But be honest about it - liberals, like you, will go along with literally anything if not doing so incurs any kind of risk or penalty. And the people who actually need and want change has absolutely nothing to gain from trusting you or your liberal politics.
I don’t blame them for not trusting the politics. I don’t trust the politics either. I don’t think change is possible inside the political system and I don’t think it’s possible outside the political system, either. I don’t think change is possible. I think any attempt at change is a futile effort.
You keep telling me what won’t work or what won’t change anything, now tell me what will. You’re implying there’s some course of action I haven’t considered. Well, what is it? You want to save Palestinian lives, ok, how?
So, just to be clear… you have never considered any other form of political action other than voting for a rich guy in an over-priced suit?
Well, that’s not really what I was saying. Sure, I have considered many different forms of political action. My question, really, and I should have clarified this better, is: what other course of political action is available to me, here, in the US, today? Protesting? Maybe I’m wrong, but that doesn’t seem to accomplish much of anything. Joining some political advocacy group? Trying to lobby politicians? I’m sorry, but, all of those seem pretty pointless to me.
No arguments from me there - the liberal brand of protesting is designed to accomplish absolutely nothing. That’s why it’s the only form of protest that is legal.
But then again… there are forms of protesting that aren’t liberal-approved - and have proved very effective.
As pointless as kicking the fascism can four years down the road? that’s literally your best-case scenario come November - according to liberal-approved politicians and their bootlicker media, anyway.
I’m not telling you not to vote - you should vote. Vote for that sack of lying shit called Biden (or whatever sack of lying shit they’re going to replace him with) because they aren’t giving you a choice.
The fact that the liberals aren’t giving you a choice means the liberals lied to you - you don’t live in a democratic society and you never have. But that also means you’re not bound to only consider liberal-approved politics, are you?
Uh, yeah. I am literally bound. We all are, constrained by laws and the state. Try to go outside those bounds and you end up in prison, or dead. And if you die, you won’t be a martyr, you’ll just be some fool who fucked around and found out.
Well duh… why did you think those laws exist? Did you really think those fascist goon squads you call “police” that you also fund with your taxes actually exist to “protect” you?
Gee… how much blatant evidence do you need shoved in your face before you actually believe what it is that you are seeing?
Clyde, if it wasn’t for people willing to break the law you wouldn’t even know what a week-end is.
What makes you think I don’t believe what I’m seeing? I see it, I believe it.
Well, be my guest. I’m not going to break the law because it seems like a high risk, low reward option. I will almost certainly be fined or jailed, and I don’t see how any meaningful change will come about as a result of it.
If you are unwilling to risk anything for change… fine. But be honest about it - liberals, like you, will go along with literally anything if not doing so incurs any kind of risk or penalty. And the people who actually need and want change has absolutely nothing to gain from trusting you or your liberal politics.
I don’t blame them for not trusting the politics. I don’t trust the politics either. I don’t think change is possible inside the political system and I don’t think it’s possible outside the political system, either. I don’t think change is possible. I think any attempt at change is a futile effort.