An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.

An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.

Hamas said it had taken “dozens” of Israeli soldiers hostage and moved them to the Gaza Strip as footage emerged appearing to show gunmen in military fatigues leading a group of mostly barefoot women down a street in Israel.

The announcement and video verified by NBC News came hours after Hamas launched a deadly land, air and sea attack and fired a huge barrage of rockets at Israel.

  • can@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    157·
    1 year ago

    Would Palestine have such a problem if Israel stopped encroaching on them? Honest question.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
      112·
      1 year ago

      Would Germany have been such a problem if the Treaty of Versailles been more fair? Honest question.

      In answering this question do you find yourself in agreement with a certain fascist regime? Thinking the treaty of Versailles was unfair to Germany doesn’t make you a Nazi. Thinking that the Nazis were justified in their actions because of the unfairness of that treaty does make you a Nazi.

      See that’s how fascist propaganda works. Make people focused only on the wrongs done to them while claiming any wrongs done by them is justified.

      There is no justification for ethnic cleansing. This is the goal of Hamas. They are evil.

      • can@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        In answering this question do you find yourself in agreement with a certain fascist regime? Thinking the treaty of Versailles was unfair to Germany doesn’t make you a Nazi. Thinking that the Nazis were justified in their actions because of the unfairness of that treaty does make you a Nazi

        Good comparison, thanks.

    • SuperCuber@lemmy.worldEnglish
      72·
      1 year ago

      Yes, Hamas will still have their stated goal of killing all Israelis and taking all of the country.

    • danhakimi@kbin.social
      73·
      1 year ago

      There are many people living in Palestine, it’s important not to generalize them all as having the same will.

      But for Hamas (which holds a majority of the seats in the PA), the answer is unambiguously yes. Their charter explicitly calls for the eradication of Israel, and also of all Jews. Their actions confirm their intent. They are popular and irredeemable.

      More generally, a common phrase among Palestinians is “from the river to the sea.” There are varying interpretations of this phrase, and its exact meaning, so not everybody who says it means that Israel should be razed off the map, but it likely includes at least a “right of return” for not only Palestinian refugees, but their descendants (who are often confoundingly referred to as refugees themselves). This influx of millions of Arabs into Israel—a democracy—would make it impossible for Israel to function as a safe haven for the Jewish people. That is intentional.

      There are a couple of youtube channels going around just asking people questions. Different people have different perspectives. But by and large, Palestinians are not willing to accept current borders, or 1967 borders, or the UN’s proposed borders from the 1940s, or any such thing without other concessions that would seriously damage Israel.

    • 5BC2E7@lemmy.worldEnglish
      53·
      1 year ago

      Of course. Their goal is not to reclaim lands but to destroy israel.