“We haven’t attacked Ukraine either. We’re defending our territory”, “Ukraine was ours then [in USSR], too!”, “It [Ukraine] was always part of Russia”, - this Russian woman is a good illustration of how an average Russian person sees the war and Ukraine. It is a mix of propaganda, ignorance and stereotypes, with little independent thinking.

https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/27904

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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    If we go back, why not go further back? To the kingdom of Kyiv, where everything was Ukraine? Stupid I know, but it’s the same logic.

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    Ukraine was never part of Russia. Ukraine was part of the SOVIET UNION. Russian really forget all the time that Russia is not the Soviet Union. Russia did not win WW2. The Soviet Union won the WW2. Fucking losers tell themself the story of how glorious they are, while nearly half of those death were not Russian (Total USSR: 10,600,000 Military death, 6,750,000 were russian - source Table: Soviet Union)

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      soviet union was basically just russian occupation with some extra steps tho

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      Not that I in any way condone what Russia has been doing, that’s not exactly right. Ukraine was part of Tsarist Russia before the USSR. However, Ukrainians have the right to self-determination and the right to defend themselves from aggressive neighbours just like anyone else.

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      What many “Westerners” don’t seem to understand is that in communist countries it was perfectly normal to operate under double think. They knew the truth, but also knew that saying that truth would get them in trouble. So there was the opinion for “outside” and the opinion for “inside”. That way of thinking still runs deep in Russia - and quite honestly, if a camera would be pointed at me, I might also just parrot the party line, otherwise…

      That doesn’t mean, that there aren’t true believers, there are probably plenty, but you should not try to understand the average Russian by watching these videos.