• Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Europeans don’t actually talk about Romani all that much. The whole situation is still a big problem, the discrimination is real, a lot of people have old uninspected misconceptions, there are people who have active hate in their heart, but it’s not a topic on anyone’s mind. It’s a small minority (~2% of population) that, ironically, lives in pretty compact communities predominately in south-eastern parts of Europe, and it’s just not a thought that crosses most people’s minds.
      The actual racism that exists in Europe is mainly comes against refugees from muslim countries, not Romani, you need to update your mental hatemap.

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        There is also a lot of gaslighting about racism in Europe. “We don’t see color,” type shit

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          Racism in Europe isn’t based on skin colour, it’s based on older, more weird stereotypes and history. There is no direct “white skin - not white skin” axis that US is known for, so technically we don’t see colours, we see light reflecting properties unachievable for an American

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            Are you white? And if so, have you ever asked non-white people if they feel they get treated with prejudice or discrimination because of the color of their skin?

            Yall like to say America is so different yet you also forget, America as a nation was founded through colonization BY EUROPEANS. We learned our racism from europeans because we were europeans.

            https://youtu.be/jgjujVEDo7Q

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        Are you using “hatemap” to mean Lodemike’s view of Europeans, or European’s view of minorities?

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            Nalivai closing with “you need to update your mental hatemap” seemed like a petty jab at you considering that they had just described that anti-Romani prejudice is a problem, but I wasn’t sure exactly how they meant it.

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        Oxford states that the first known use of Gypsy was in 1514. It was popularized by Edmond Spenser and Shakespeare and has its entomological root from the Middle English word gypcian due to the misbelief that Romani people were from Egypt.

        So, to answer your question, no. The only Europeans in the Americas at this time were the Spanish.