cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847

@Snowden

The DNC is the only reason you’re not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.

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    4 months ago

    Acknowledged. We circled the wagons around the wrong candidate twice in a row. Hillary Clinton was a well qualified candidate with likeability issues. Biden is a long time politician with equally good if not better qualifications than Clinton, he’s just old. Bernie is older. Bernie aligns a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than the other candidates out there. Bernie isn’t in this race and has endorsed Biden, he’s a wise man and usually is right on most topics. I’m going with Bernie on this one, vote Biden and start building the next generation of leaders, maybe that next leader is you.

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      2 months ago

      Both Hillary and Biden are closer to the country as a whole and more likely to pull moderates, who you need to win if you want to actually win a national election.

      The internet has allowed leftists to delude themselves into thinking the only people that need to be appealed to is them.

      They fundamentally do not understand the kinds of people that make up this country. I’d love if we were a left leaning population. We aren’t. Continually lying to ourselves about why Bernie didn’t win is a type of paralyzing ignorance that only looks more and more absurd as the years go on.

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        4 months ago

        Do a poll asking Americans their political alignment and the balance will be center right. Poll them again on specific issues and the average end up well to the left of the Democratic party. For a prime example, look at how all the abortion referendums have turned out in red states.

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        If you poll Americans on issues and not on politicians, the average American is politically closer to Bernie than to Biden. Bernie is more centrist than Biden is.

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          In case you have not noticed Bernie is not on the ballot. He is supporting Joe Biden. If you support Bernie, you will vote for Joe Biden, not some off the wall third party candidate.
          Also Biden’s policies resonate with Democrats AND Republicans. Our oligarch owned MSM doesn’t do ANY favors for Joe Biden.

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            4 months ago

            Yeah, I really hope Biden wins. I don’t want my American partners to be genocided.

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        4 months ago

        CNN and mainstream media has deluded liberals into believing Hillary is actually a viable candidate.

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      4 months ago

      If I ever tell you who to vote for, don’t listen to me. -B. Sanders

      He’d be disappointed that, despite all his educational efforts, you still fucking refuse to think for yourself.

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      4 months ago

      likeability issues

      Is that what we call white supremacism these days? A “likeability issue?”

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          Hilary Clinton is white

          Gee… what tipped you off? Was it when she started spouting white supremacist “super-predator” narratives, or did you clock her beforehand?

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            4 months ago

            Silly me, I must have been confusing that with Bernie Sanders and the “low information” voters that weren’t crazy about a white guy from Vermont lol

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        I think by likability they mean she’s a woman with opinions. Nobody likes that.

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          I voted Hilary because lesser of two evils. But I despise her snake in the grass ass! And me not liking her has absolutely nothing to do with her gender.

          But you are right that there are many that hate on a strong, vocal female (AOC).

          There are still many strong females out there that would have done better than Hillary and would make great leaders

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            To be clear I was being sarcastic if that’s the right term. I didn’t like her either and I had no problem at all voting for her because f the other guy, but I could never separate it from any potential sexism I might be subconsciously experiencing. There’s no way to grow up in America without gender and race biases being baked in.

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          Pretending that the problems with Hillary Clinton is her garbage girlboss-feminism and not the fact that she’s a white supremacist arch-colonialist and warmonger that was literally mentored by the US’s very own Heinrich Himmler-level war criminal is peak white liberalism.