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Shifting politics, intensive lobbying and surging disinformation online have undermined international efforts to respond to the threat.

  • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
    21·
    5 days ago

    You basically see two pro-fossil fuel campaigns on social media:

    • In right-leaning spaces, they say “climate change is a hoax, wind turbines kill birds”
    • In left-leaning spaces, they say “we’re all doomed, it’s already over, just give up”

    It’s an extremely dangerous two-pronged assault, because any information at all can be catalyzed into inaction:

    • “Things are getting worse” can be treated as confirmation of propaganda efforts or confirmation that we’re screwed
    • ”Things are getting better” can be treated as admission of overreacting or dismissed as “too little, too late”
        • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.worldEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          Yeap.

          Until very recently I was prone to the “better is better, and at least we’re not open fascists” argument. But I’ve come to understand that incremental fascism is just the mechanism used on so-called “liberals”.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      4·
      5 days ago

      You’re right

      I’m very much in the left camp and I do fear its too late. I fear that in the next 5 decades, millions if not billions will die and that we might actually face a societal collapse

      Governments don’t give a shit about climate, they’re too dumb

      Companies don’t give a shit about climate because their owners direct the actions and they only care about money

      So how exactly should I be positive and have a “let’s go fix this!” attitude?

      I’m tired, really really tired

      • hanrahan@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        17 hours ago

        So how exactly should I be positive and have a “let’s go fix this!” attitude?

        Fix what ? The civilization hell bent on destroying the biosphere and collapsing civilization ?

        Climate change is the answer, just try not to not be at the front of the queue, try not to make it worse with your actions and how you vote and enjoy life as best you can. That’s about all a sane person can do.

        https://www.nationalobserver.com/2024/06/14/opinion/science-civilization-collapse-environment-limits

        Rees bluntly states, “the human enterprise is effectively subsuming the ecosphere” and “wide-spread societal collapse cannot be averted — collapse is not a problem to be solved, but rather the final stage of a cycle to be endured.”

      • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.worldEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        Don’t give up…that’s the point of the NYT article. It’s manipulation.

        Every step each of us in the “west” takes to help has an outsized positive effect.

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3·
      5 days ago

      Dont give up. Kill your masters.

      If you’re not willing to do that, you have already given up, please stop panicking over your choice to back our collective suicide and die with dignity.