Having grown up in a religious household, these definitions seem more restrictive to me that they should be. Religious people see religious behavior even where there is no supernatural god involved. In their eyes, the god of an atheist soccer fan is soccer, and they see much of his behavior as just as religious as theirs. In that world view, it’s just the question of a false or true god.
And from that point of view OP’s question is very very valid.
Religious people see religious behavior even where there is no supernatural god involved. In their eyes, the god of an atheist soccer fan is soccer, and they see much of his behavior as just as religious as theirs.
When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To the atheist soccer fan, they’re enjoying the sport, but I think it’s a stretch to say they are enjoying it to the extent of “worship” in the same way a Christian does God. Even the most religious people I’ve known were allowed to enjoy things, watch sports, , appreciate good food, etc. and it was fine if they didn’t “put it before God”.
In OP’s case we don’t know if they have any ties to a religion, so I suppose that context is what matters most to answer their question. To me, an atheist, they are not being religious by believing science. To a fundamental Christian, that belief in science could be enough to say they are in service of a false god.
I agree. It’s very subjective and depends who you are talking to.
I’m somewhat wary of calling myself an atheist, because I am not necessarily against religion (unless it is harming others - otherwise I think it can help some people, and that is great), even though I don’t follow any myself. Some people may interpret the term as being against it, and that is the case for some atheists, of course. But I do identify with the term more than agnostic, because while I acknowledge I can never know for sure, personally I am very doubtful.
Having grown up in a religious household, these definitions seem more restrictive to me that they should be. Religious people see religious behavior even where there is no supernatural god involved. In their eyes, the god of an atheist soccer fan is soccer, and they see much of his behavior as just as religious as theirs. In that world view, it’s just the question of a false or true god.
And from that point of view OP’s question is very very valid.
When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To the atheist soccer fan, they’re enjoying the sport, but I think it’s a stretch to say they are enjoying it to the extent of “worship” in the same way a Christian does God. Even the most religious people I’ve known were allowed to enjoy things, watch sports, , appreciate good food, etc. and it was fine if they didn’t “put it before God”.
In OP’s case we don’t know if they have any ties to a religion, so I suppose that context is what matters most to answer their question. To me, an atheist, they are not being religious by believing science. To a fundamental Christian, that belief in science could be enough to say they are in service of a false god.
I guess I will never call me anything else than agnostic, because I never know what people mean with “god” or “belief”.
I agree. It’s very subjective and depends who you are talking to.
I’m somewhat wary of calling myself an atheist, because I am not necessarily against religion (unless it is harming others - otherwise I think it can help some people, and that is great), even though I don’t follow any myself. Some people may interpret the term as being against it, and that is the case for some atheists, of course. But I do identify with the term more than agnostic, because while I acknowledge I can never know for sure, personally I am very doubtful.