In an opinion piece in the The New York Times, Dr. Vivek Murthy said that social media is a contributing factor in the mental health crisis among young people.
Im aware this would pretty much require all commercial tech products to carry one of these labels. To that I say good. Large tech firms have been weaponizing the computer illiteracy of the average smartphone user so they can normalize corporate malware. It’s so bad they’ve even made up new names for types of malware to make it sound okay:
spyware became telemetry
adware became targeted advertisements
vendor lock-in became walled-gardens
bootloaders and root permissions were perminantly locked “for security”
Rootkits where pushed under the guise of DRM, or even Anti-Cheat. Including google pushing rootkits installed by default to the most popular OS on the planet (Android/Google Play)
Regardless of how you feel about gun control, guns don’t actively work against the people who buy them.
They can certainly be used or kept in dangerous ways that lead to tragedy, but they do exactly what you tell them. They come with a manual full of warnings, and a big giant label that says something to the effect of “READ MANUAL BRFORE OPERATING.” Many of them even have it etched into the firearm itself.
That is not the case with EULA washed legal malware.
It isn’t about feelings. School shootings happen more in the US.
They can certainly be used or kept in dangerous ways that lead to tragedy, but they do exactly what you tell them.
And? So does cocaine.
They even come with a manual full of warnings, and a big giant label that says something to the effect of “READ MANUAL BRFORE OPERATING.” Many of them even have it etched into the firearm itself.
That’s good. As a former IT guy I know that the natural urge of humans is always to read the manual first.
That is not the case with EULA washed legal malware.
That’s sounds bad. You probably shouldn’t use it then. Notice how it doesn’t work for guns? No? Let me explain it to you.
You can choose not to be on Instagram, you can not choose to not be shot dead. The state requires me to send my kids to school but does nothing to require that they are safe at school from gun owners.
It isn’t about feelings. School shootings happen more in the US
I never said they didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of what I was saying? Those warnings are for the user, not those around them. How the fuck is the warning printed on a gun/gun box going to help victims?
You’re just attaching bad faith arguments to a completely unrelated statement which is bad for both free software and the anti-gun violence movement.
And? So does cocaine.
Recreational drugs should be legalized, with sensible regulations for each specific drug/category. Certain things should probably only be sold to people who are already addicted. But they should still be legal. Shitty point.
That’s good. As a former IT guy I know that the natural urge of humans is always to read the manual first.
You, me, and half of this site, platform, Fediverse? Point being is that the warning labels on guns are much louder, much more obvious, and much more present then the EULA most corporate software pushes.
That’s sounds bad. You probably shouldn’t use it then. Notice how it doesn’t work for guns? No? Let me explain it to you.
You can choose not to be on Instagram, you can not choose to not be shot dead. The state requires me to send my kids to school but does nothing to require that they are safe at school from gun owners.
No shit, but making a bad faith argument that does nothing to actually solve the issue is just sticking a spoke in your wheel. Please tell me how putting “Warning: potential school shooter.” on a gun is going to actually prevent violent gun crime?
If anything that sounds like a fucking advertisement for the sort of people who go commit school shootings.
never said they didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of what I was saying? Those warnings are for the user, not those around them. How the fuck is the warning printed on a gun/gun box going to help victims?
Same way it will stop kids from social media. You know not fucking at all.
Point being is that the warning labels on guns are much louder, much more obvious, and much more present then the EULA most corporate software pushes.
Didn’t address what I wrote. La La la
No shit, but making a bad faith argument that does nothing to actually solve the issue is just sticking a spoke in your wheel. Please tell me how putting “Warning: potential school shooter.” on a gun is going to actually prevent violent gun crime?
The same way it will stop the communist plot of social media to contaminate and unpurify our precious bodily fluids.
Same way it will stop kids from social media. You know not fucking at all.
Its almost like those warnings are intended to prevent accidental misuse and instill caution among its users. Obviously its not there to magically instill you with a working moral compass. Just as malware warning wouldn’t. There’s nothing new you’re adding, and again you’ve missed the point entirely.
Also what’s with the focus on kids and social media? My comment was specifically about the state of the commercial software/computing industry as a whole.
Didn’t address what I wrote. La La la
How not? Humans don’t always listen to warnings, the warning labels on guns are some of the loudest/most obvious out there, and for good reason. I don’t know if you knew this but people ARE MORE LIKELY TO READ OBVIOUS LABELS. Here’s an idea, next time you accuse me of missing the point, how about you actually show how? if you need an example look at the first paragraph of this comment.
The same way it will stop the communist plot of social media to contaminate and unpurify our precious bodily fluids.
Lmao, what the fuck are you on about? This isn’t about thinking of the children, this is about don’t attatch your unrelated bad faith arguments to my free software evangialism. I’m here to spread the good word of the AGPLv3.
I like how you both completely ignored my points and went off on an unrelated tangent again. What makes you think I give a shit what some fuckin tools made the state gun?
if anything, I find it to be a tasteless display of reactionary bullshit. Adults acting as children. Basically in the same ballpark as putting warning labels on guns/manuals that read: “Warning: Potential School Shooter”
Neither your nor they have presented an actual solution to an issue. You’re just suggesting unrelated, reactionary bullshit meant to push buttons.
Its not that I’m pro-gun, or anti-gun. Its that you don’t have any meaningful suggestions, and you have no idea how to present a solution. You don’t even seem to be able to accurately identify other peoples political beliefs or the ideas they’re trying to express.
No but there should be “Malicious by Design” stickers for:
Im aware this would pretty much require all commercial tech products to carry one of these labels. To that I say good. Large tech firms have been weaponizing the computer illiteracy of the average smartphone user so they can normalize corporate malware. It’s so bad they’ve even made up new names for types of malware to make it sound okay:
I got a good idea. Let’s put warning labels on gun owners. “Warning: potential school shooter”.
Regardless of how you feel about gun control, guns don’t actively work against the people who buy them.
They can certainly be used or kept in dangerous ways that lead to tragedy, but they do exactly what you tell them. They come with a manual full of warnings, and a big giant label that says something to the effect of “READ MANUAL BRFORE OPERATING.” Many of them even have it etched into the firearm itself.
That is not the case with EULA washed legal malware.
It isn’t about feelings. School shootings happen more in the US.
And? So does cocaine.
That’s good. As a former IT guy I know that the natural urge of humans is always to read the manual first.
That’s sounds bad. You probably shouldn’t use it then. Notice how it doesn’t work for guns? No? Let me explain it to you.
You can choose not to be on Instagram, you can not choose to not be shot dead. The state requires me to send my kids to school but does nothing to require that they are safe at school from gun owners.
I never said they didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of what I was saying? Those warnings are for the user, not those around them. How the fuck is the warning printed on a gun/gun box going to help victims?
You’re just attaching bad faith arguments to a completely unrelated statement which is bad for both free software and the anti-gun violence movement.
Recreational drugs should be legalized, with sensible regulations for each specific drug/category. Certain things should probably only be sold to people who are already addicted. But they should still be legal. Shitty point.
You, me, and half of this
site,platform, Fediverse? Point being is that the warning labels on guns are much louder, much more obvious, and much more present then the EULA most corporate software pushes.No shit, but making a bad faith argument that does nothing to actually solve the issue is just sticking a spoke in your wheel. Please tell me how putting “Warning: potential school shooter.” on a gun is going to actually prevent violent gun crime?
If anything that sounds like a fucking advertisement for the sort of people who go commit school shootings.
Same way it will stop kids from social media. You know not fucking at all.
Didn’t address what I wrote. La La la
The same way it will stop the communist plot of social media to contaminate and unpurify our precious bodily fluids.
Its almost like those warnings are intended to prevent accidental misuse and instill caution among its users. Obviously its not there to magically instill you with a working moral compass. Just as malware warning wouldn’t. There’s nothing new you’re adding, and again you’ve missed the point entirely.
Also what’s with the focus on kids and social media? My comment was specifically about the state of the commercial software/computing industry as a whole.
How not? Humans don’t always listen to warnings, the warning labels on guns are some of the loudest/most obvious out there, and for good reason. I don’t know if you knew this but people ARE MORE LIKELY TO READ OBVIOUS LABELS. Here’s an idea, next time you accuse me of missing the point, how about you actually show how? if you need an example look at the first paragraph of this comment.
Lmao, what the fuck are you on about? This isn’t about thinking of the children, this is about don’t attatch your unrelated bad faith arguments to my free software evangialism. I’m here to spread the good word of the AGPLv3.
Hey your gun nut buddies are making the AR-15 official gun of Michigan.
I like how you both completely ignored my points and went off on an unrelated tangent again. What makes you think I give a shit what some fuckin tools made the state gun?
if anything, I find it to be a tasteless display of reactionary bullshit. Adults acting as children. Basically in the same ballpark as putting warning labels on guns/manuals that read: “Warning: Potential School Shooter”
Neither your nor they have presented an actual solution to an issue. You’re just suggesting unrelated, reactionary bullshit meant to push buttons.
Its not that I’m pro-gun, or anti-gun. Its that you don’t have any meaningful suggestions, and you have no idea how to present a solution. You don’t even seem to be able to accurately identify other peoples political beliefs or the ideas they’re trying to express.